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Dev Update #31

Hi everyone,

I’d like to give you another update on where Stardew is at.

I spent October trying to finish the single-player game. My daily routine involves playing the game for several hours and taking note of any bugs, game balance issues or details that I want to improve. Then I spend the rest of the day fixing everything on the list. I guess you could call it an in-house beta. I rarely encounter serious bugs anymore… most of the work I’m doing involves tweaks in gameplay, prices, progression… small graphical problems, etc. Everything is pretty solid and every day it gets closer to being a finished product.

I know many of you are wondering about a release date. Developers who are a lot more experienced than I have advised me not to set a release date until the game is completely finished. I’ve made some foolishly optimistic predictions in the past, and even recently I said the game will “definitely be released this year”. I don’t think a full release will happen this year. I wish the game was ready, but it’s not. As I’ve said in the past, it’s just so hard to predict how long game development will take. I’m working my hardest to get the game finished and it’s so very close, but the last thing I want to do is rush the game to release and have it be sloppy. I’ve been working on this thing for too long to do that.

Many people have suggested that I release the game without multiplayer and patch it in later. While part of me wants to do that, I also have to take business considerations into mind and make decisions that will be best for the success of the game. Other developers who know a lot more than I do have advised me to wait until multiplayer is finished before release. However, I want there to be a way for you guys to play the game as soon as possible. So I’m thinking about doing a closed beta when single player is ready, while I simultaneously work on finishing multiplayer. Then, when multiplayer is finished and well-tested I will release the final game. I can’t make any promises or give any details about a beta version right now, but it’s something I want to do.

 

Here’s what I’m thinking for a release timetable:

1. Finish single player (November)

2. Closed Beta (December)

3. Finish Multiplayer (December ย – ???)

4. Full Release

 

I can’t say this enough: thank you all for being so kind, patient and supportive.

Here’s a screenshot I took recently.

steam4

 

People often ask me how they can support the development of Stardew Valley, but I’ve never felt very comfortable accepting money without giving something in return. So today I’m releasing the complete soundtrack to Stardew Valley:

It’s over 2 hours of music, spanning 70 tracks. If you’d like to support the development of the game by purchasing the soundtrack, I really appreciate it. : )

I’m also in the process of publishing the official steam page (set to “coming soon”), and I’ll update this post with the link when it’s ready.

 

If you follow me on twitter you might have heard that I added a horse:
horse

 

 

 

You don’t need to feed your horse or worry about it too much. If you leave it somewhere overnight it’ll find it’s way back to your stable. I want the horse to be convenient and stress-free.

I’ve also added a couple more TV channels (a tip channel and a cooking channel), but besides those things I haven’t really added anything new (of note). I’m mostly just polishing everything that already exists.

 

As always, thanks for reading!

-ConcernedApe

  • Maiq Liar

    M’aiq wants a cat!

    • Maiq Liar

      Also, that floran owns catbug.

      • ikr? ๐Ÿ˜€

      • Tolma

        ๐Ÿ˜€

  • flamedance58

    What do Novas get? Lil stars that follow you and demand that you listen to them?

    • Hey! Listen!

      But lol srsly, that was funny xD

      • ImThatGuy

        It’s spelled ‘seriously’. You missed a few letters there, try a bit harder next time. I’m sure these pets will fit right in with you.

        • Please remove thine arrogant self from the internet good sir!

          • Novakid

            Using “sir” makes you sound pretentious, you know. Who actually talks like that? Also, who abbreviates in this day and age unless they’re using a phone or something to access a page?

          • Did you even look at the comment i replied to?

            And what’s wrong with using the using the word sir and abbreviating?

            The way i see it. it’s a damn sight better than behaving like some raving buffoon that dwells in the depths of 4chan!

          • Cat

            This guy has never been to 4chan.

          • i wasn’t referring to novakid. i meant it in general.

          • chaostails

            Hey! I represent that remark.

          • Milly Rainbowskittlez

            Welcome to the internet, my good sir! -monocle-

        • NotThatGuy

          As it turns out, you are that guy. The jerk who can’t stand one abbreviation.

        • Pie4Pigs

          r u srs m8

          • Zorku

            No he’s not a Sears MB.

        • Cooper Leabo

          wlcm 2 th ntrnt, abbrtns hppn sumtimes

          • Mister Grammar

            Oh god, why?

          • Zorku

            Should have just made that smtms so we’d get even more stuck trying to figure out what the word was.

        • criminology

          u wot m8? u r 1 cheeky kunt m8

        • Rannekk

          See, if people are dumb enough to argue about the likes of this, why even bother worrieng about upsetting them in the first place. Haha.

        • Epiceco

          I found this funny because there are abbreviation at the top of the page, deal with it

      • HiMods

        It’s spelled ‘seriously’. You missed a few letters there. Although the devs and mods here seem to like txt speak as much as you do, so this will be deleted again fairly quickly.

        • Pinkie Pie

          Hi, welcome to the internet. You must be new here.

        • Eccentric

          Funny, how you didn’t say anything about the “lol”.

        • Srsly

          I’m tired of you people. ๐Ÿ™

        • WARNING QUARINTINE FOR TROLLS

          people please do not feed the troll he is under special quarantine

      • Ok, I actually laughed at the amount of people who complained about the “srsly” not being “seriously” I mean… r u srs?

        And by people I still think it’s the same, but oh well xD

        • Junker

          All the same person, just under different names.

          • yup, seems like it as the same arguments were used :3

        • Zorku

          I’m seriously not enjoying this text speak gag.

        • joker

          why so serious?

      • WHEEL! OF! FORTUUUUNNNNEEEEE!

        I’d like to buy a vowel.

    • Or ask you to feed them Starbits till they explode.

    • Masterofm

      If this happens you should be able to kill it, jump up and down on it, tea bag it, and then be able to bury it with a tombstone. “Here lies that fairy couldn’t stand…. let that be a lesson to all you other fairies!”

    • Kinitix

      I didn’t originally like this stretch goal, but if novakids can have lumas as pets, I’ll love this goal.

    • M_Blox

      If that was the case, I’d make a green Novakid and call it Link. ๐Ÿ˜€

    • FoxAtmos

      I see this in my head: Look! Listen! Hey! Listen! Look! Look! Listen! Not sure if anyone else gets
      the LOZ Navi reference…

  • Can we have lots of pets? Or we’ll have just the one we start with?

    • Would be fun if your starter pets could ALWAYS be with you even if you had another different pet as well :3

      And maybe with the option of leaving them on the ship or something if you didn’t want to take them along

  • Pyro

    They won’t get 1 million…

    • ThatGuy

      Well, the preorder is going to stay for still quite alot of time, and if more people do more videos about starbound, it will get more preorders!

    • Stillman

      ehh can’t be sure of that. they are are still steadily rising in profits and I know a lot of people have yet to pre order

    • ionbeam3

      they came this far in only a week or so and you think they wont?

    • The Stretchmark is still there, probably they will keep adding them as the donations grow and grow and see how far and how many things will get implemented before the preorders end

    • David Summers

      They’re on track to hit that goal in about 1-1.5 weeks. So I guess it depends on if the beta will be out within a week.

    • Deimos

      850k and counting…

    • Roger

      You were saying…?

  • Omega V

    I demand a penguin pet. D00d. ๐Ÿ™‚

    • As long as they explode if you throw them

      • Prinny

        ;____;2

        • Mister Obvious

          you made that face because you are a penguin.

      • DeanDactyl

        er… wut?

        • Deimos

          Prinnies. They’re dead people in penguin suits from disgaea. They explode when thrown around, hence Zephyr’s statement.

        • Its a Disgaea prinny reference. There is a game called Disgaea which has characters you can control called Prinnys. They are penguins which call everyone D00d. And if you pick them up and throw them, they explode. Just look up youtube on prinny. they are quite hillarious.

    • Buckstabu

      But the penguins in this game are “Pirates”. so if you had a pet one, You’d be enslaving a penguin.

  • Iggyflare

    AH! they dont fight.. now I can agree with the idea.

  • ToastyGod

    So awesome! but im not sure that you will make it to 1$ untill the beta will be released… unless you will release it on the 19/12/13 and if you DO! ILL kick you in the nut sack :3

  • Levirax

    I’ve never seen, outside of my relatives(not the most technologically advanced), the acronym for i love you as ilu, always ily. I<3u sure, but not ilu. Just nit-picking

    Love the idea of pets, unless its been added since i last checked i havent seen a price for it. Saw that there wasnt a guarantee it being the 1 mil mark, guessing less than that. Love the idea of just having them hop around and follow you, not doing a whole lot of anything.

    Best of luck with pushin through. Looking forward to playing, whenever you get it to your satisfaction.

  • Nirilia

    OMG

  • Shot846

    YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

  • :(

    STOP ADDING FEATURES AND DO A FUCKIN BETA RELEASE

    • ionbeam3

      patient is a virtue so if you wait then you get even more stuff so just try to be patient ^^

      • KoedGaming

        I don’t have that virtue.

    • If you paid attention, these extra features are not delaying the progress of the game. They are features that they planned to add into the game, but were not put for the 1.0 release due to time and effort constraints compared to the other features they wanted to implement. Tiy mentioned that they would be hiring another artist to do the Novakid so adding them is not slowing down the beta progress at all. I would assume the same is true for fossils and the pets. They will likely hire another artist or programmer even temporarily to work on these side things.
      We’re lucky to get any extra features at all.

    • Blizzra

      These won’t effect the time it takes at all! The point of these is that they’re using the extra money to have extra people do stuff without effecting overall development.

    • FinnTheBird

      Because a faster release of an unfinished game is better than a nicer, more complete and polished game, Right?

  • Does it matter?

    This is so insanely useless it’ baffling. This is the best you can come up with for 1 flipping million dollars? Really? This is a two day ‘pet project’ at best.

    • KAHEBLEH

      They’re STARTER PETS. They’re meant to help you out in the beginning of the game and make things easier. They’re not meant to fight giant, hulking monsters that can kill both you and your pet in one hit.

      • Does it matter?

        They do nothing. They’re pointless cosmetic junk. They hit 1 million. This is not worth anywhere near this. Maybe $1000 at best. It’s a terrible prize, and I don’t think I’m even going to bother preordering. Anything to show how little I want this.

        • Mr.Notyou

          Im not saying they’re useful, but they’re somthing when starbound is obliged to add nothing to the game for getting a set # of pre-orders. I don’t like the idea of mini-pets either, but hey I’ll probably end up getting one. Point is Starbound didn’t have to add This or the fossils or the nova kids. Even if they got 2 million pre orders they would be obliged to finish and distribute the game or refund the money, nothing more nothing less. Tl;DR I think you are self entitled and whining too much.

          • Does it matter?

            At first no, but then they started adding stretch goals. Things like a brand new race and a new item type/mechanic. Then they add worthless pets. Pets I want nowhere near me. Pets that do absolutely nothing at all. And this kind of lazy garbage is why I wont bother giving them my money.

          • warfaced

            They’re giving you the world for $15, dude. Who cares if that one insignificant stretch goal (which they didn’t even need to do in the first place) is a tad underwhelming? Put your tampon back in – your period isn’t over.

          • Does it matter?

            A tad underwhelming? I’ve seen people cough out a more robust pet system in a month with their spare time. And the game already had this feature with actual useful monsters! This is redundant and less than pointless! It’s a waste of space that could’ve gone to an actual useful or interesting feature.

          • Affero

            Then I guess I won’t see you in beta then! Cheers, I don’t need butthurters anyhow.

          • Mr.Notyou

            “This lazy garbage” So you mean because they added something minor to the game you refuse to play it? I guess I understand where you’re coming from I mean when I saw penguins were going to be in the game I started crying because I have a personal vendetta against the demonic fat birds and as such didn’t preorder… Alright that sarcasm was really rude. But it helps get my point across. If you don’t want the game don’t get it, but it seems so trivial that THIS would put you over the edge. Any ways to each their own.

          • Admiral

            Well, they could alter the entire mechanics system to allow for every block to experience the slight fluctuations of gravity caused by the position around the sun for elliptical obit paths and nearby galaxies and such, along with a planet moving mechanic. Then Maybe we would have the full game by the second quarter of 2014. OR (and this is a crazy idea so bear with me) They offer preorders for the game (at a reduced price for the fans who have been following development and keeping them motivated) They could offer the game, the beta (that means you get it even earlier) and maaybe something insignifigant extra like the soundtrack (predominantly orchestral, sounds EPIC). Thats it, thats all you need. You have the option of paying more, with some tiers to send a thanks to the real devoted guys who are prepared to part in excess of 1000 dollars and so on, while still making everyone the same game. THEN (and try and stay with me, because i think this is what you struggle with) they put up stretch goals. They could make these just an option to change the colour of your UI or something of that nature, or, if they were feeling really nice; they could add a new race, or a new mining mechanic or something. Although the downside to being so nice is that they then run out of ideas, and they really want to get the game out in 2013, because they missed a promised date before, and it really annoyed them. SO they hold a poll, with each option presumably easy to develop. SO they arent even at fault, the fans are. hell, they might even make it optional, so if you would prefer they hadnt included the stretch goal at all, then you can play your game as though they hadnt. ANd you can spend your measely 15 dollars on the game, and the beta, and the soundtrack. OR you wait and extra 3 months after beta release and pay 20 dollars for the game. Of course, odds are the pets are still there, so if anything you are paying the developrs even more for the exact same product…..
            So theres 3 options: 1.) Stop being a whiny ***** and get the game which you clearly want
            2.) Dont preorder, end up buying the exact same game later at a higher price (only the devs will have added more stuff on thier own whim
            3.) Dont buy the game, never experience a sense of wonder again and slowly forget what having fun feels like

          • warfaced

            Welcome to the world of the 2010s internet, my friend :/. All get, no give.

          • Every goal that’s been listed was going to make it into the game regardless of if a goal was met. This is just a way of deciding when. In the case of these starter pets, I’d prefer “when” be “never.”

          • Mr.Notyou

            You are entitled to that opinion, I too find these pets a little pointless, but the thing is they are hiring other individuals into the group, so adding these features hardly slows down the game making process. So whats with the hate? They’ll exist no matter what is said, and their so minor they’re hardly worth raising a fuss over.

          • Blizzra

            Enough that spending money on the game is somehow a terrible sin because of one stretch goal. Completely ignoring the rest of the game. It’s completely bewieldering.

          • Rage

            The point is that they are redundant, because there already was a system in place to tame monsters. They could have easily added something more enticing to get more people to preorder. I’m sure as hell not giving money for starter pets.

          • anonny

            It was chosen via the public vote on their forums.

          • Mr.Notyou

            Do you want a Beta? Then I assume you’ll pay for it. I’m not crazy about the starter pets, but hell the game was enough to spend my money on, its not even a big feature in the game any ways, as in could be easily ignored. Pretend they don’t exist, because they really don’t have to. I feel it’s wrong to blatantly attack chuckle fish because they decided to add something so minor that it really shouldn’t be a deciding feature either way. I mean what did you want? “We reach 1 million dollars and the game gets released tommorow!” Alright we’d all like that. I just don’t see why its worth complaining about.

          • Mr.Notyou

            You’re not giving them money for starter pets you are giving them money for Starbound.

          • Does it matter?

            They would be using my money to fund this, and I don’t want that. It’s a waste of money and a terrible prize and I wont support it.

          • Mr.Notyou

            Alright you got me there. However in that logic I wouldn’t buy a golf club because it came with a sock cover I didn’t like, and instead of just not using the sock, I refuse to purchase the very nice golf clubs. Now don’t get me wrong, you are entitled to spend your hard earned money any way you please. However I find your reasoning a bit off, just because these pets and the concept of them existing is so trivial. Lets agree to disagree, if it really is a deal breaker for you, I’m sorry to hear you won’t be joining starbound as the more the merrier, other wise I think we’ve both spent enough time debating this point.

          • No, because the preorder is cheaper than the full game. You get early access plus all these wonderful things. Who knows how long it will take you to get taming tech? It could be late game. These pets are just a boost. A fun little companion to be adorable.

          • c2h5oc2h5

            And you are not giving your money for early beta access (granted during preorder), discount price (game is most likely to be more expensive post-release) and ignore the fact they’ve already added two major stretch goal? It’s your thing, but come on… When I look at people like you I start thinking they should have make no stretch goals – it is supposed to be fun, and it seems it pisses off lots of people (despite two cool features are already founded!). Plus what guarantees do you have that four stretch goal won’t be something bigger? ๐Ÿ˜›

          • Does it matter?

            There will be no fourth stretch goal, and if there is it’s likely to be even worse garbage based on the precedent of this goal.

          • ImThatGuy

            Yeah it’s pretty childish to actually get upset about an extra feature, and beyond stupid to boycott because you don’t like said extra feature. Stretch goals are bonuses beyond the base game (which is all you’re entitled to) to help encourage preorders. It’s not the first bonus they’ve added, do you hate all of the others too? Don’t want a pet? Then don’t get one. I don’t like the idea of txt speech myself but I’m not going to condemn the game because of it, if pets are annoying enough I’ll just avoid them.

        • dawgenstien

          Whoa, chill, Chucklefish is adding content to the game at no extra cost to you, and you’re unsatisfied with it? Then you follow it up by saying you haven’t put a cent toward the game? wtf? Why are you acting so entitled when you’ve contributed nothing?

          • Does it matter?

            This isn’t content, at least not something worth this much money. It’s a bunch of worthless confetti. The equivalent of a stupid party hat. And I have to sort some junk out with my credit card company, so I hadn’t been able to preorder it yet, and now I’m glad that this was the case.

          • Haze

            You realize that they don’t have to do stretch goals, right? The money they’re getting also goes to, you know, feeding the fucking developers, making the game roll out faster, and all that sort of shit. Stop acting like an entitled little fucking cunt and maybe consider that they’re giving you extra content for free and you’re MAD about that.

          • Does it matter?

            They didn’t, but then they did them anyway. Two that were actually useful and interesting and not this throw-away trash. And it’s ‘extra content’ in the same way the water they inject into your steaks at the super market is. It’s worthless and something I never wanted.

          • Xaenen

            You do realise if you Pre-Order, it helps the developers make more content, FREE content after you buy the game, and you wont buy the game because of one con’s which is “Cute, Adorable Pets!”
            I think you’re a tad retarded.

          • Ackerboy11

            If you dont like it do not get one at the beginning I will though because I think this looks cool. Also if you do not get this game cause of the strech goal you are an idiot

          • Mr.Notyou

            Dude they didn’t have to put it in. You would just preorder it and get the game. Do you think they are spending one million dollars on this? No, they’re spending that money to make starbound complete. Hell I pre ordered the game because oddly enough I wanted starbound when it came out, this extra stuff is just icing that didn’t have to be put in, and we should be grateful they even thought about handing out prizes. You know every single goal this preorder thing had was going to be put in the game post release? By funding the company you allow them to release an even more polished product. TL;DR They didn’t have to give you a party hat, but it makes the party more enjoyable for some.

          • Does it matter?

            But it is an insult to me. It’s like putting pineapples on my cake and telling me that they’re a present when I do not like them and could have gotten something better instead.

          • Mr.Notyou

            Ehh it’s actually more like a birthday party that gives out gift bags. You go there for the party (starbound the game) and you plan to enjoy it. You get a gift bag that contains a festive pencil topper, you then proceed to complain that the whole party is ruined because you were given a pencil topper rather than say a pair of chinese handcuffs, and storm out swearing.

          • Does it matter?

            More like a gift bag full of napkins at a party you had to pay for when they could’ve given you something of value.

          • Logic Bestower

            You did not pay for any of this. They are not using the money gained from the preorders on the stretch goals, they are probably using their free time to make them.

          • Does it matter?

            My money would fund this. My money would go toward this goal. I don’t want that.

          • Mr.Notyou

            ^ My point, you paid for the great party, complain about the gift bags.

          • Deimos

            Except it isn’t. The “Option” of having a pet strongly implies it is “Optional”.

            So it’s like offering to put pineapples on your cake as a gift and you throwing a hissy fit.

          • Does it matter?

            Yet there are no other options except for these pineapples.

          • Logic Bestower

            Yeah, but let’s say I like pineapples, and we were in line to get cake. You know I like pineapples, even on a cake, and he gives you the option for pineapples. But he also gives you the power to remove the option for pineapples. You can choose the normal cake without pineapples, or you can express the total dick you are and remove the option for me.

          • Does it matter?

            And you demand that my money fund your pineapples and then whine when I refuse.

          • Logic Bestower

            Actually the truth is, all of your money goes to help the cake baker eat, not for the pineapples or the cake.

          • Logic Bestower

            Oh I almost forgot, using the same example, the baker had planned to add the pineapple option to the cake permanently at a later date but decided to wait because some of the features of the cake were more important than the pineapple option. But people started buying the cake so much that he decided to include them now. So you are paying for starter pets whether you like it or not, it’s just a matter of now or later. Get it? So I guess you shouldn’t buy starbound AT ALL.

          • Does it matter?

            And I wont.

          • Tacomanx

            But, the thing is, They said it was optional, so You are paying for the cake, and they offer you pineapple for free.

          • Admiral

            Its OPTIONAL. Your loving grandmother is baking you a cake for driving her home for christmas: do you refuse to drive her as soon as you hear that she is thinking of putting pineapples on it? Youre already on the road, she has nothing other than pinapples, most of the cake is baked and you can just pick them off anyway.

          • Jordan Teska

            “They didn’t have to give you a party hat, but it makes the party more enjoyable for some.” I like that, nice way of putting it =D

          • You have no ability to pre-order, and yet you bitch and whine about it anyways? A troll if I ever saw one.

        • Sekh

          Don’t let the door hit you.

        • Blizzra

          So you were going to preorder until one single stretch goal wasn’t to your liking? That makes literally no sense to me.

        • Yes!

          I understand his(?) anger on this. The two other stretch goals were innovative and unique concepts, while this new one seems to be a mostly useless cosmetic item that you would only use at the very start of the game. As stated in another comment in this debate, there was already another system in the game designed for pets, so it’s not like it would have taken them quite a bit of time to implement a new system for pets.

          Compared to the other two stretch goals, which appear to be worth the cost that the preorder total has paid for, starter pets are relatively minor. A more wholesome and useful concept would do much more for the cash influx that Chucklefish is receiving from the copies that they are selling. A better concept would result in more sales, and that means more stretch goals being accomplished in a quicker time. That may not be the case with starter pets, as many people might not find them fulfilling enough to put money towards.

          But then again I could be completely wrong and this could be the most popular thing ever. Good day.

          • thetacriterion

            Yeah, they’re cosmetic items. And what’s wrong with cosmetic items?

            Honestly, most of the really meaty stuff is already locked in. Anything more substantial would delay the release at this point. So cosmetic stuff makes perfect sense for stretch goals now. (And let’s not forget, the fossils are ALSO only cosmetic– used for decoration or for obtaining pets.)

          • HaT TraDing PloX?

            The funny thing is, if they were hats nobody would be complaining. :V

            (These comments should be restricted to registered users only, or one troll could comment all he wants under 5 names and we think it’s a ton of arrogant people, let’s recommend that to TIY or something. :/ )

          • thetacriterion

            I don’t know why, but it wouldn’t let me comment without registering. Maybe I was doing it wrong.

    • Mr.Notyou

      It’s not costing them 1 million dollars, it’s just a prize for funding them this much. The money actually goes to allowing the faster completion of the game, as ya know Chuckle fish needs to eat. This allows them to hire other people as well to speed up the process. They don’t have to give anything for the pre-order as far as Im aware. The fact that they are actually adding anything more than what was promised is baffling. You seem to think that star bound is siphoning money from us and giving out cheap prizes, they are not, as stated they don’t have to add anything.

    • warfaced

      I think you’re being a little bit rude about it, but I understand where you’re coming from. Starter pets – especially when a pet system is already in the game from what I hear – just seems kind of “meh” as a major stretch goal. I was really hoping they’d do splicing or DNA cloning of animals as a stretch goal. But who knows? Maybe that’ll be the next stretch goal if they have one. Or they already have it in the game ;D

    • Pinkie Pie

      You realize that the smaller the project the better, right? They’re already going to be working extra to add in the new race and the fossil stuff. If they were to continue with bigger stretch goals it would take that much longer for the game to be done.

      • Mr.Notyou

        They hired extra workers to actually speed up the process… so the extended completion time is negligible. Not like we knew when it would be released anyways.

        • BlueDragon66

          The more money they get the faster they can release this game. These bonuses are just stretch goals to add as a bonus and thanks for the support.

          • BlueDragon66

            These stretch goals will probably be developed at the very end of the beta. That’s why these features won’t be available until the final version.

      • Hello :)

        mmm no these are being added to the full game, not beta

    • Mog

      That’s the idea. Remember how people complain about how “long” it’s taking them to complete the game? They can’t implement anything AMAZING or it would delay development. They have stressed the fact that these bonuses for pre-ordering need to be relatively easy to add to the game.

      • ArcticZero

        They already added fossils and a NEW RACE. Don’t tell me that that is a 2 day project too?

        • c2h5oc2h5

          It is indeed, code-wise. For race they actually need graphics and some fluff (time required to develop complex feature is pretty non-deterministic + possible bugs generate some testing/bugfixing cycles; I believe time required to make graphics can be estimated well and gfx itself leads to no problems). Fossils are probably also minor feature when it comes to coding, provided their engine is elastic, and they claim it is. Most likely fossils are just matter of adding some new objects basing on already coded objects (placables are already in place (:P), I believe they have already coded in some gems or something like that for level generation, so fossils are mostly about extending graphical assets…).

        • Cooper Leabo

          The part that would take the longest is graphics, which they hired another guy to work on, so it won’t delay progress.

    • Have you ever programmed in your life?

      Sure it might be an easy project… depending on what you want to do that is, not taking into account trouble-shootings and unexpected errors in the code, as well as making all that match the sprites and their actions.

  • Hodrat

    They should be able to pick up loot that enemies drop ๐Ÿ™‚

    • rasd

      a little extra storage space would be nice

    • This… but wait, can’t you already send things to the ship? Or am I talking out of my a$$? 0_o

  • Sephel

    PRE OH DAH!

    • ionbeam3

      doesn’t work a third time either

    • Gulliver

      Fuck off

  • Earl Asplund

    I’d like my pet Cat-Ladybug hybrid to be able to travel to other dimensions at will, please.

  • BrakSampson

    I hope that they stay on the ship instead of following us around everywhere. I am not so excited about this stretch goal…

    • ThatGuy

      In your other comments you seem to be very excited about this stretch goal.

      • BrakSampeson

        Other comments?

    • Derp Much?

      I would imagine you would have control over them such as ‘sit’ or ‘stay’

  • Wait… “useful companions”? They are going to do something… I wonder what.

  • Taylor Sorensen

    Pikachu I CHOOSE YOU!

  • screw off furfags

    Seriously fuck you all that voted yes. Combat pets that did the same shit were already in the game but you’re all too fucking stupid to know that.

    • Derp Much?

      You’re ‘too fucking stupid’ to know we don’t care about your opinion, as you can choose to have a pet or not. Therefore everyone is happy you crazy turd…

      • Gulliver

        I’m not happy about this, I thought the new stretch goal would be something fabulous and wondrous but nope.

        • NotThatGuy

          You know, if they wanted, they wouldn’t even make a single stretch goal. You should be happy that they are making them.

          • Reason

            By your logic, if someone shits on a plate of food I’ve paid for, I should be happy that they took the time to defecate all over the things I already liked, instead of being incredibly upset.

          • ACTUAL Reason

            No, that’s like saying PETS THAT WERE GOING TO BE FUCKING ADDED ANYWAY into the game turns it into shit. This is like getting FREE FUCKING GIFTS before your birthday or christmas. Stop making ‘pet stretch goal’ sound like it’s going to turn Starbound into a bad game. Your name is ‘Reason’, yet you don’t have a single bit of it.

          • ????

            Except these non-combat, vanity pets were not going to be added. We’re still GETTING combat-enabled, tameable pets. These are something extra.

            Also, the shit in this case is their poor choice of stretch goal.

          • ACTUAL Reason

            No, actually, if you read the last sentence of other two stretch goals, it says “will be playable UPON RELEASE”, which means they are going to be available when it is released, rather than having to wait for it on an update. Find better excuses for thinking that Chucklefish is suddenly turning Starbound into a pile of shit because of a small fucking stretch goal. BTW, that 250k is also being used so that Chucklefish staff won’t have to work two jobs and finish Starbound quicker, not just the pets. Keep that in mind.

    • Jordan Teska

      I don’t see why anyone needs to be upset. The people who voted for pets get to have something extra, but it’s not taking anything away from the people who didn’t want pets. You can choose not to use them in your game. The people who wanted pets probably knew there were already the tamable monsters (they had the be reg. in the forums to vote), but they felt like the mundane starter pets would bring a fun, if small, element into the game.

  • MachoBandit

    Devs, please make sure Hylotls get a kappa as their starter pet, it would make perfect sense with their theme. (Water and Japan)

  • Gulliver

    What the fuck are you all doing
    Generic pets? What the fuck.

    • TheRealShaunsred

      How many times are you going to bitch about a free gift?

    • For what I saw up there, the only generic pet is the dog and the cat.
      The dog is assigned to the human race, which is, in my opinion, normal. You didn’t expect the human planet to have all kinds of weird alien creatures did you?

      And the cat isn’t with any of the characters, so it might be human as well.

  • ImThatGuy

    “but they make for lovable and useful companions all the same!”. Useful how? We can already tame crazy space monsters to fight for us, what point is there to a cat that follows you around and vomits txt speak at you? They’re cute and all, but they sound like a distraction more than anything. Do they have some sort of effect? Do they pick up loot?

    • TheRealShaunsred

      Less QQ, more pew pew.

      • Catlin Ashenfelter

        I doubt they’re going to include the ability to shoot your pet. That would be bad.

        • What about a pet cannon that lets you launch your pet at monsters? Ahh, surprise catbug to the face!

        • Catlin Ashenfelter

          I’m guessing the people who voted me down agreed with me that it would be bad if you could shoot your pet, but they were confused on whether the downvote button was to dislike the idea of shooting pets or to dislike my post. I refuse to believe that anyone seriously wants the option to shoot their own pet, no matter how much they dislike the idea of pets.

    • Tolma

      I don’t know, I figure it’ll be nice to have a permanent fixture as a companion rather than a disposable fighting minion. I rather like the idea of having a companion to follow me around when I’m playing offline and alone.

  • Need a penguin pet, mainly because they are just too awesome to leave out ๐Ÿ™‚

    • sds

      Great thinking

  • If for some reason this does make it into the game I hope that they don’t act as invincible buffs, that’s just lame. “no pls.”

  • Rekansen

    Ah man, was looking forward to seeing what kind of crazy pets the Glitch or Novas would have. Guess I’ll just have to hope you make it to a million. ๐Ÿ˜›

  • Bloodslatters

    rottweiler dog plz !

  • Max Steel

    Can we choose to have no pets? Because they seem like they’d be a pain.

    • Derp Much?

      Yes you can each player has the option of starting out with their very own customize-able pet!

    • Logic Bestower

      I don’t think you read the blog post…
      “each player has the option of starting out with their very own customize-able pet?”

  • ionbeam3

    why is everybody using the name stillman?

  • hiro00

    i though you said it would not be 1million for the next streach goal…..

  • PrinceAlden

    I am REALLY against this idea. I love the idea of lone rangering around the galaxy, so this seems absolutely pointless. For the first time, I am completely disappointed with Chucklefish’s implementation of new material.

    • Hulk-Hoagie

      ITS A FUCKING OPTION

  • QQuixotic

    I don’t know how comfortable I am with this idea. We’re already going to have three ‘pets’ following us around, and now a fourth one that does nothing?
    I can’t even think of a game that has purely cosmetic pets, besides MMO’s. In Torchlight 2 they were VERY useful. Hell, even in Maplestory they were buff slaves or had some magnet use.

    • Admiral

      Well it was said that you had them “starting out” so they could just be monsters that you have from the get go, which you would replace later. Plus they have some functionality, just worse functionality then the monsters you tame, so maybe they will be magnets, or buff slaves

  • Nosagi

    FKN GREAT!!1111 :0

  • Yay pets!

  • hiro00

    i really think that 500k for the first strech goal was way to much, by this point i think we deserve those 3 rewards, like the nova kids was a 250k mark, 500k for the fossiles, and 750k for these pets. still 1million???? you said it wouldnt be 1million guys!

  • Seifer665

    I’m disappointed in this new content …

    • -.-

      Spam comment more please.

    • I’m disappointed in this new comment…

  • PixieBabe

    EVERYONE PRE ORDER TELL YOUR FRIENDS TO PRE ORDER WE NEED THIS IN THE GAME!!!!!

  • email

    This isn’t kickstarter where you throw money at them for prizes rewards and the ability to put out the game they want. This is preordering a game that’s coming out, almost finished by the looks of it, and they want to give a few little bonuses to everyone, not just the preorders, for helping them get this game in our hands faster. Preorder the game if you’re interested in the game itself, don’t come here whining that a bonus that they don’t even have to do isn’t good enough for you.

  • RAWR

    PENGUIN WANT!!! I CAN’T WAIT!!! LOVE STARBOUND!!!

  • Vasian

    Must have!

  • Giddi

    Sadly, for me this is a useless feature because I don’t care about those things and only will make the time longer till the (beta) release. I really hope this game will be a success but I would prefer if this goal wouldn’t be reached before beta release. ๐Ÿ™

    • Anon

      It should not delay development. They are using some of the money that they received from the preorders to hire new people to get these things done before the game is ready to go.

    • criminology

      I doubt this would take any time to implement. They already have the mechanisms in place for taming wild animals. I doubt it would be hard to create the sprites for tiny pets that are with you at first spawn. I don’t care about this stretch goal either, but I’m not worried about it affecting the release date.

    • Jordan Teska

      I was under the impression they choose something so small (these pets) so that it wouldn’t be big and have an impact on the release dates.

    • Arkus

      Thats exactly what i said xD, more time till beta… but o well…. when playing alone… spend time with a pet… would surely make the time a little more… relaxing xDD and both running from wird monsters would be epic xD. but ya… more time till beta now…

  • lol

    haha you mad mods? If proper spelling is so insulting to you then go ahead and ban me. This place obviously has pretty low standards.

  • Rekombo

    Those who want to help the game and earn rewards can buy me a copy rekombo.x @ gmail.com

  • Doomed

    Even if the majority of people think this is bad I think it’s awesome!

  • phyrex

    crap, they putted the mark at 1million. i doubt we can make that

    • Its possible that once they release the official trailer that we will get a nice influx of sales for them :3

    • dawgenstien

      we probably have months to do so, I think we’ll hit it easily.

  • Seriously, whats with all the self-entitled pricks here? If you have not preordered, you have no right to complain, these goals were picked on the forums, it was OUR choice when to get each stretch goal.

    • the majority of people who voted for this stretch goal, self included, voted so with the idea that some further clarification or use for the pets would be provided and/or that this would not be another 250,000$ stretch goal.

      • Kinitix

        The point of the preorder was to donate money to the devs, not get us new features.

        • indeed it was. I never said that this stretch goal ruins anything. I’m happy to have preordered and supported the devs. however, if the devs are going to implement stretch goals, they’re meant as extra incentives to either get people who already have preordered to donate even more, or to encourage those who have not yet preordered to do so and help reach the goal of implementing this new goal. the first two stretch goals were great game advancing ideas that included an entirely new community member created race and the inclusion of a new system and function for mining. this however, as we have little to no information about it, is the inclusion of a pet that from what we know right now, will follow you around. that’s it. that’s all we know about this right now. that’s disappointing. The team had the opportunity to really strive and set another game advancing stretch goal for the 1,000,000$ mark. heck, they could have even had this pet stretch goal at 800,000$ or 850,000$ and then done another stretch goal for 1,000,000$ that would be a step down from a new race but still something game advancing, yet they decided on starter pets. Unless these pets are somehow very useful and game advancing, that’s just disappointing. People may say we have no right to complain, but we’re the ones funding this. We have a right to not like a stretch goal if we feel it was poorly planned.

          • Xnez

            …Ahem, you do realise that they dont have to add ANYTHING, right? and i don’t also understand how you can have such little faith in the devs about this, even though they haven’t said much about what the pets do yet, you really think they are only going to follow you? of-course not. they may well have some amazing evolutionary system as they get more powerful along side you, they may be trade-able who knows, it could be far better. also, don’t you think the devs are working on the game while this is going on aswell? im not saying you are not allowed to like this stretch goal, but honestly cut them some slack, they cant throw out some amazing game changing idea or concept whenever they feel like it.

          • Junker

            From what you said above though, you gambled on a chance and that back-fired. You, personally, have no right to complain about it, because you’re one of the ones who voted for this goal, in hopes that you would find out more about the pets.

          • We are the ones funding this, but, if they never made it, you wouldn’t get to play it. Your logic is backwards. They’re making it so we can play it. We don’t play it so they can make it.

          • S.J Thomas

            ..yeah,.. i used to have a degree of respect for you, but that has COMPLETLY vanished now. you apeard to be a real team member but you broke your shallow veil by your selfishness. what i am trying to say is, you are a Dick.

  • Kiory

    For 1m? Borring!!

    • Guest

      What?

  • ReviloO

    The 1,000,000 strech goal is this? Really? I hope they can at least carry items for you or so. >.>

  • heffner

    Wow, it’s fucking nothing.

    GG money well spent

    • Blizzra

      They never had to do these stretch goals in the first, people.

  • Krytikal

    hmm doggy or kitty cat…

    • Krytikal

      doggy.

  • Croyd

    Looks good to me, they didn’t want to add in something that would slow them down working on the actual project. Just small and neat. They didn’t have to put a new goal in, I think everyone would have been content with what they had.

    • Ackerboy11

      Exactly

  • Left2Die

    How much do you expect them to add? They’ve added a whole new race and a whole new set of mechanics already. If they add another huge feature the game will take even longer than it has. Stop crying, you’re getting free bonuses for something that should cost way more than 15$.

    At least you’re not paying 30$ past the base price just for ‘Premium’ so you have access to the content you were promised.

    • GreenStuff

      Yeah, in the forum some of use really tried to push some big features onto pets. It was probably a naive hope. It is ok to fantasise, right? But it is really bitter to see so many people acting like total ducks. It is actually quite good that they set it to $1mil as another streatch goal discussion could be quite sad.

  • Melchya

    Good stuff! And i cannot help but laugh at the people going “i’m not paying for this feature”. its absolutely raging funny to see how mind numb some people are, especially since its optional, and that it even states that they are useful. Anyway, good stuff chucklefish!

    • FinnTheBird

      “Wow this feature sucks, I would’ve bought the game if this wasn’t in it! How stupid” I’ve read everything, today. Everything possible. And they haven’t, apparently.

      • What’s hilarious about it is that the game was available way before people even knew about this new starter pet feature… if they would buy the game without this, why didn’t they just do it and simply waited for this to be an excuse not to?

  • Beldaar

    Epic ๐Ÿ˜€

  • Mewbone

    Wait what… pets…. really? PETS!! OMFG THANK YOU! Yes, yes I am happy.

  • Youcouldhavestoppedthis

    “Doesn’t mean it’ll be $1mil” She said. Grats. You’ve pissed off more people than is actually funny. what a god damn waste holy crap.

    • GreenStuff

      These stretch goals are a ”Thank you!” for our support. Not ”Give us more money and we will add more gameplay!”. It is quite rude to just spit on their gift.

  • Dadrick

    I’ve arrived at the conclusion that the Starbound fan base is composed almost entirely of Sith Lord wannabes. In other news, congrats Chucklefish on passing the 750,000 mark. I for one am very much looking forward to this game.

  • Zerokyuuni

    There should be a bat-pet named “Fwap-a-durp” available at the start. They should also make little squeaks

  • Tokiw

    “Ohmg! THEY ADDED A SINGLE FEATURE THAT I DON’T LIKE, THEREFORE I MUST NOT PURCHASE THE GAME!”

    Silly, silly entitled people. I’m just glad there’s a pre-order. You people are all foolish.

    • This has been my sentiments on this topic since the moment the next stretch goal was leaked.

    • Lelouch

      Maybe if you stop commenting so much and read the text that says “each player has the OPTION” You would be so mad =P So if you don’t want a pet, don’t get one. I for one would love to have a pet. It’d be nice to have a little something from my homeworld IMO

  • If Catbug doesn’t somehow make it into the mix, I’m going to be a very sad panda.

    • …I’m going to name my pet Catbug now ‘-‘

    • Who lives in the east ‘neath the willow tree?
      Sexual Harassment Panda!
      Who explains sexual harassment to you and me?
      Sexual Harassment Panda!
      “Don’t say that, don’t touch there,
      “Don’t be nasty,” says the silly bear,
      He’s come to tell you what’s right and wrong,
      Sexual Harassment Panda!

      Great comment btw xD

  • IceKing

    Are you kidding me! This is the freaking 1 million dollar stretchgoal! What is this!

    • FinnTheBird

      This ain’t something you’re PAYING for, son. These are little gifts Chuckefish are making us upon release of the game. Would you say ”THAT’S STUPID, I WANT SOMETHING ELSE” to a gift from your grandmother? I wouldn’t.

      • PiratingMadeEasy

        Funny when I pre-order the goal gets closer. Sounds like a purchase to me. It’s extra incentive but it’s still a purchase.

        • Buddy. You’re getting the entire game, plus beta, plus all this extra content early, PLUS five dollars off. Shut up. Please.

        • FinnTheBird

          Yet they wouldn’t need to give you something more than what they already are giving out.

  • MuffiN

    I want a pony pet! Yay!.. OKay, that was a joke… =(

  • Two Shot Joe

    I love this idea and well done with getting this far in a week

    • MuffiN

      Wow-wow, slow down, dude. We’ve understood you. =)

  • WMoose

    Hello there, WMoose here.

    If you have not pre-ordered the game, you have no right to complain about what is in or not in the game.

    • WMoose

      Woops. Accidentally clicked the wrong thing.

      Anyhow, idly being upset about what is in a game or not when you’ve done nothing to contribute to it is both pointless and low class at the same time. This game is a major improvement over previous titles that it mirrors, and the additional content they are infusing it with pre-release is intended to be a BONUS, not an incentive. It’s completely cool to not like the entire game based on a single feeling you have about a very small part of it that has absolutely no effect on what you do, but please do not put the game down as a whole in public because “omg pets so stupid u guis suck.”

  • MrT

    The audacity of some people…please. I mean come on. This game is already toppled with features that will most likely be beyond the scope of ‘most’ (I say most but what I really mean is the majority) games today. The fact they even considered to add these subtle yet very interested features was completely of their own whim. ‘Pre-orders’ does not necessarily mean they are obligated to add further ‘extras’. SO these ‘extras’ are there just to add more flavor to an already seemingly ‘epic’ game. So please, do not divert attention to criticizing features that you deem of the lowest quality but more rather admire what is already there. If you dislike such additions to such passion then fair enough but don’t say that they could do ‘better’
    When in fact they already have surpassed expectations…..

    • Krauser

      that’s a long ass comment 0.o all i can see is tawiwt ktwioktwa twatdga

  • Yes! This is fantastic! Can you make them randomly generate like monsters, but non-hostile? That would be AWESOME.

  • bcore333

    Wow, the negativity and selfish ignorance of people is overwhelming. This is an independent developer who has spent years on a very VERY creative and advanced adventure game. They are choosing to provide a pre-order, and they are choosing to provide little extra gifts upon release for those who decide to pre-order which is OPTIONAL for the developers, and yet one step further, they are giving an extra incentive by giving extra little “stretch goal” gifts when buyers collectively reach a large amount of money which individuals each have a little effect on. People seem to have more issues with being selfish and misunderstanding of the hard work the developers accomplish and more focused on downright whining when they aren’t being OPTIONALLY given new material to a game that isn’t even out yet. Relax everyone… It doesn’t even have a release date and they’re already making an effort to provide new things to the game that isn’t even in beta either. Which developer can you name that has ever done that for their customers, especially an indie developer. Save your breathe and don’t pre-order if that’s SUCH a big deal for you.

  • bebigy

    By reading comments it’s easy to see – pets was a bad idea after all.

    The whole idea of game’s scenario is: our hero’s planet is destroyed, being left alone you search for new horizons, unknown enemies.. But nah.. We’ll give you a pet.. ‘Couse yeah, that sounds too lonely and moody, and that ain’t cool. We need rainbows and shit.. Please decide on game’s direction – AND KEEP ON ROLLING. still, I preordered.

    • actually your ship just crashes, so, no

    • David Green

      Did you even look at the screenshots? This game is overflowing with cute. How is a cute pet out of place in this cute pixel art game?

  • Stargazer

    “useful companions” means that if I dont want one with me I will be in some kind of disadvantage? :/

    • stop spamming…

      • Stargazer

        What? Am I spamming on my first post? O.o

    • its probably they just pick up items, more like inconvenienced

    • Pie4Pigs

      I assume that you have to guard them, so there’s probably more responsibility involved. Just like real pets ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

  • Vendiz

    Was expecting something much better at $1,000,000
    =/

  • Vandalbrot

    While I’m not vehemently enraged by them as some people are for what reason I don’t think any of us will be able to comprehend, they are a little mundane. At least in comparison to the other prizes. But if you’re going to complain about how it’s lame, suggest something better why don’t you?

  • Mangetsu

    This game just need to be in Steam.. and then number of pre-orders will up to 100000.

    • :P

      It is going to be in steam, just not available for pre order in steam

      • MB

        THROUGH* steam sorry

  • Biscuitsawce

    Not a bad stretch! 1 million is too much though. Not the biggest leap forward. But WE NEED PET PENGUINS! Also, it would be nice to have a living memory of your home planet because it got destroyed.

  • Something tells me things have gotten way out of hand…just love each other and anticipate this game like everyone else is, and enjoy it ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Honestly starbound team, without some further clarification on this feature, this seems like an underwhelming stretch goal, particularly for a 1 million mark. If the pets are very useful and can do things for us, sure, then I could be for that, but right now, nothing has been said on that. it just seems like a missed opportunity.

  • GreenHinge

    Russia says that pets for 1 million is bad idea…

  • Lambdadelta

    Already pre-ordered but honestly I hope they don’t hit 1mil with this stretch goal. Just as a way to show them that this idea was terrible and worthless. I’ll be fine with just Novakids and fossils.

    • Death Hawk

      Seriously, I’m getting real tired of all of you, “This idea was terrible and worthless”. You preordered for the stretch goal?. Is that the ONLY REASON YOU PREORDERED?. If you truly cared about the game, you wouldn’t complain about this little feature. “Just as a way to show them that this idea was terrible and worthless”. Seriously, again. They’re working hard to make this game as awesome as it can be, and yet you wish them to fail. I suggest you disconnect from the internet.

      • Lambdadelta

        I preordered on the first day before stretch goals were even announced. I preordered within the hour that preorders came out. I’ve been looking to preorder for this game for over a year now. I don’t want to hear anything out of you. I suggest you get that dick out of your mouth and stop being a consumerist sheep who praises every decision the devs make.

        • Death Hawk

          First of all, you’re getting mad at an OPTIONAL FEATURE. Second of all, as I already stated, you’re wishing them TO FAIL, even though, and this I take from their FAQ:

          “We’re financing the game out of our own pocket and a couple of our team members have had to take on second jobs. We’re hoping the preorder will allow them to work full time on Starbound and get the game to you quicker!”

          IF you had been looking to preorder the game for over a year, then why are you such a snobbist FUCK and wish them to fail in their goal EVEN THOUGH they aren’t forced to give you any kind of added features to the game you already ordered.

          • Lambdadelta

            Because they want $250k for a feature that is not worth 250k of effort. By not reaching their goal, the devs are sent a message that this is not the direction I want starbound to go. You should stop getting mad at other people having a different opinion from you. I don’t hate you. I don’t the hate the devs. What I want is to get my voice heard. You’re free to get your voice heard but being rude is getting you anywhere.

          • Anonymous

            They don’t “want $250k for a feature that is not worth $250k of effort”, they want $250k to fund development costs and they’re throwing in an extra feature as an extra incentive.

            I don’t even understand what “direction” you think that Starbound would be going in with the addition of pets. I actually agree with you that they seem redundant but i don’t really see the problem with their addition.

          • Death Hawk

            The fact that they’re not asking for $250k to add more things is the only thing that baffles me you don’t seem to understand, you may think they’re redundant, and that’s cool and all, they’re optional, after all. Everything’s ok with your logic till this point.
            THEN we have the “asking for release” thing. They’re just releasing these things because:

            A) People voted for it
            B) They can focus fully on their works now that they don’t have to have 2 jobs.

            Again, this is all an extra, it was their choice, and the “250K worth of effort” is the game itself, you’re paying them 15-2000 dollars because they worked to do the game, you’re not paying 250K to just add pets/fossils/a new race.

            /rant

          • Gavelwrench

            This really isn’t how their stretch goals work, you’re not paying 250K for 250K worth of work on pets, the pre-orders are paying 250K towards 250K worth of work on the main game, and they’re throwing in pets early instead of saving them for post-release. They’ve mentioned before that the stretch goals were designed so they wouldn’t add tons of extra coding work that would delay the game any further, since most of that money has to go towards finishing the main game.

            I understand being disappointed if it’s not a feature you’ll enjoy, but I wouldn’t want to discourage people from pre-ordering just to send them a message (it sounds like pets would have been added post-release anyway, so the only message they’d get is “save it for later”). Maybe since pets are so polarizing, they’ll add an option to disable them on servers for people who hate the idea of having pets underfoot ๐Ÿ™‚

  • “…and useful companions” – like companion cube…

  • Something to think of

    Keep in mind that these bonuses were probably planned, future updates and bonuses for Starbound. The developers are now delivering these features at game release and as such we will be getting (originally planned) future content sooner.

  • GreenHinge

    Better develop roadmap and release Beta :/

  • telephonicCommander

    I don’t see why everyone is getting mad. It’s not like there’s a higher distance between the previous stretch goal, plus they’re optional so why is this such a negative subject

    • Domek

      i agree, who knows, if the devs allow it there might even end up being a huge database for mods

  • Krauser

    don’t you think 1 million is alot ?

  • Bro Of Steel

    AAAAAAwwwwwwwwwwww, so dissapointed. Damn, so sad… Probably first time you guys dissapointed me..:(

  • Nyarlot

    We’re talking one million dollars here. I know you don’t owe us anything, but mini-pets are lame.

    • Logic Bestower

      Blame the community, they voted on it.

    • Cooper Leabo

      Yea… it’ll take a while to get there… Gotta remember that they can’t add too much ’cause they still have to finish the game though.

  • Nyarlot

    This isn’t my thing, but it wouldn’t stop me from pre-ordering. How about another biome, dungeon or boss?

    • Jordan Teska

      That might be kind of tough to advertise, since we don’t know about all (or many) of the biomes and bosses. But I think that sounds like a neat idea. More world variety is always kickass.

  • TheRealShaunsred

    Some people are ignorant assholes. People please, be grateful that even decided to give you anything.

  • Anonymous

    Are you issuing refunds on pre-orders since this game is now officially ruined?

    • werty11109

      Yeah the ENTIRE game is ruined because starter pets are a STRETCH GOAL.

    • ReviloO

      The Sarcasm is strong with this one (at least i hope so)

    • GreenStuff

      Dude, no need to be so upset. The only thing they have added is a customizable pet, that will accompany you right from the start. Besides there would be pets in the game even without this stretch goal, you would probably get a pet 20 min in the game anyway.

  • Kenshin

    So what kind of pet will the Glitch get?

    I really want a pet toaster.

    • jubjubjabebe

      Part of me wants a claptrap…
      The other part of me would throw it in a volcano.

    • Tacomanxxx

      I believe the glitch is not a playable race (yet, or probably never) And so they would not get pets ;l

      • B G

        What? They are in the character creator and were introduced on the main page!

      • Pinkie Pie

        Every race that they’ve announced are playable…
        (Obviously I don’t mean the randomly generated monsters. For you stupid people that will reply with something in that regard.)

      • Excuse me? Gltich ARE going to be playable, among humans, avians, florans, hyoytl (sorry, but I just can’t pronounce that correctly) and novakids. And apex.
        So I don’t know what you’re talking about, sir, but Glitch IS a playable race.

    • Peter J. Ramaglia

      Brave Little Toaster anyone? ๐Ÿ™‚

    • Orinoco68

      A computer mouse would be cute too

    • Guest

      Please Ketchup Robot

    • Ketchup Robot!

      • NeoTheFox owo

        Yeah, the kind of pet I want!

  • Willy

    Okay. Fine. Devs, take down the stretch goal. No-one likes it apparently. Let’s just not have any stretch goals anymore. (Seriously though. KITTIES. WHY SO MUCH HATE ON THE KITTIES?)

    • Jordan Teska

      I know right? Isn’t this the internet? Everyone’s supposed to love cats.

    • LuciferSam

      I would prefer a huge bad-ass dinosaur than a useless kitty

    • Cooper Leabo

      Kitty > Some ugly-a** bug I find and tame

  • jetsin

    I see the devs are pandering to furcon-frequenters and equine copulation participants.

    What a wonderful waste of a $1,000,000 goal.

    • stop complaining that this is not as good, they started with the best
      ones, would you prefer they have had the novakids as the larger one that
      they might not have reached? or you know, just not have any more stretch goals

  • Herecius

    Don’t… don’t people realize that even if a stretch goal isn’t achieved, the dev team totally intends to put this stuff in eventually anyways? That a stretch goal just means they have the cashdollars to put in the time and resources to have it in for release, rather than patched in later?

    Come on folks, don’t be dense, but much worse than dense, don’t be nasty towards the devs!

    Be the people Mr. Rogers knew you could be.

    • flak mc jacket

      sir you are making a mistake by letting the devs shit on there project with somthing nobody wants
      and before you say its not our project that doesn’t mean they can shit up the game we are paying for

      • Logic Bestower

        You’re paying for Starter Pets whether you like it or not. The stretch goals just bring up the descision “1.0 or later?”. The only way for you to not pay for starter pets is to never buy the game, ever.

        • Tacomanx

          I agree, but, They are paying for the game, They are not paying $15 for the additional content if they want the game, they are paying $15 for the whole game, while they are given extra for free.

      • thetacriterion

        Something nobody wants? The poll would disagree with you there.

      • Admiral

        Even disregarding the fact that the addition isn’t all that bad (pets were always going to be a thing, this just gives you the option of having one when you start), it doesn’t really matter if you don’t like it. Its their product, they have made it and are now selling it. Sure they are adding things between the purchase date and the release date for those who preordered, but anyone PREordering knew it was still in development and SUBJECT TO CHANGE. For all you know they couldve added this anyway, even without the stretch goal. Who knows, maybe they will even if the stretch isnt reached. If you have an issue with it then spend around 2 years to make your own game, most of the tools they used to make it are free, seeing as youre so annoyed about your 15 dollar purchase

      • You and who’s army?

  • Anonymous

    Message to all haters:
    FUCK YOU ASSHOLES!

    • Admiral

      Thank you, youve shed a new light on the debate

  • I want this more than I wanted the other two stretch goals ‘-‘

  • The entire Starbound Community

    ๐Ÿ™

  • The Cheese NInja

    Seems like a pretty cool feature to me but I guess the reason why some people are mad is that they might have been expecting a “more exciting” $1,000,000 goal.

  • SHADOWDRAMON

    I don’t really care, because it’s a gift, and nobody here has the right to complain because they don’t know what it will do in the game, played the game with this feature? No? then don’t fucking complain untill you play it.

  • Jordan Teska

    I feel like the people raging don’t really get the point of Stretch Goals. I think starter pets are a neat little idea. Not as cool as the first two by far, buuut I kinda like that the awesome stuff came first, so it means we get it for sure on release (instead of at a later date or not at all). If you don’t make 1mil. No sweat because the pets aren’t such a big deal. But if you do, all the better, because they’re still kinda cool.

  • Magus Gestalt

    Its pretty obvious that they didn’t expect such a turnout for the pre-orders, though I can’t imagine why, I personally am in maximum hype overdrive for this game. So when you get stretch goals for incentive they can only put in stuff that will be simple and easy to implement so they don’t get bogged down putting in extras when really all we want is a beta. So siddown and eat yer damn cake ya hooligans. And I swear to almighty Pete that there had better be Glitch toaster pets. That’s pretty much the best idea I have ever heard.

  • Xannmax

    I heard the starbound crew was running low on ideas of what to set stretch goals at! Well; at the odd chance that you see this; I reccomended adding in a new ore of some variety! I like all the ideas so far!!

  • To all those complaining: IT’S THEIR GAME! They can do with it as they please. I want this to come out as much as anyone, possibly more than most, but acting like a spoiled child will not aid in that matter. They’re allowed to put in whatever features they wish, and I’m glad they are. The best games I’ve ever played where made when the dev was making a game they WANTED to play themselves. If you really find the content or development process this objectionable, DON’T BUY IT. Chucklefish is going to make millions with or without you, and rest assured, the rest of the community won’t miss you.

    • Croyd

      Agreed, the vote for the pets pretty much speaks for itself.

  • Love this, even though it doesn’t seem to be enough awesomeness for a $1,000,000 goal.

  • Curatyr

    Look at the SWAG on that fifth cat!

  • 14

    no pet – no problem

  • my only complaint about this is that humans might just get real animals and nothing super interesting

  • Catlin Ashenfelter

    Have to admit, I’m not looking forward to this stretch goal. Pre-ordered all the same, but I just don’t think this is worthy of inclusion at release.

  • hartham

    I think this will be quite fun ๐Ÿ˜›

  • Fofalooza

    It’s too bad that the million dollar stretch goal isn’t simply “happiness” just to troll people who are complaining. I’m pretty excited about the pets anyway.

  • Arkus

    The problem is.. While more features they add with the — Backers money, More time it will take to come out, they decide to add all the stuff on the prelaunch SO !!!!! that means if the release was… like around Q3 2013 now can be around December since they will add a lot of features that was thinked to be developed latter on with updates, also on the road map, everything keeps the same like the game is at 40% and now with the new features 25% or 34% still i can’t wait to play but… wait until they add the new race, fossils, the Pets (?) *still i don’t think they’ll reach that goal, since not many people liked the idea* is a lot of time… HOPE !! they release a REAL prelaunch with not all the “new stuff” and upload it latter with updates…. well thats my point of view, i post it with not a bad intention “I MEANT NO HARM” xDD and so.. Thanks for reading ^^ and yes ! if they add pets hope they add prinnies :3

  • Logic Bestower

    I am going to really enjoy this game either way. Pets or not.

  • flak mcjacket

    pets are stupid cant you just do somthing cool? like.. i dunno… CUSTOMIZATION AND MODULE BASED VEHICLES as in costomization for vehicals i mean for stats i couldn’t give less of a damn about how my mech looks as long as i can use it to punch things into orbit

    • An Educated Scholar

      Grow up.

  • Oxyz

    starter pets isnt very promising…i hope, if it has a 1,000,000 stretch goal, they make a bigger and better one than just pets, fossils and novakids are great. These starter pets are cool but to 1,000,000? it has to be a BIG stretch goal, in my mind it has. and Novakid is a good name because of their history, just saying

    • Logic Bestower

      They were going to add in Starter Pets, Fossiles, and Novakids anyway after the game was released, but they decided to have these stretch goals to see if they should put them in at the start, 1.0. So if we reach 1mil, we get Starter Pets now, if we don’t, we get Starter Pets later.

  • Aquaclaw

    Lets get this 1,000,000. Goal!

  • Zora

    Love it :3

  • Rio

    Oh my god…Ferrets and platypus! Please!

    • Rio

      Oh my god…I’m just thinking of a little pet pig with a little dome space-suit for it…Starbound looks to get incredibly cute incredibly quickly and I love it.

  • xenonni

    WE MUST HAVE PETS.

  • GreenStuff

    The word ”useful” in the description makes me think this is actually something quite cool.
    A lot of fuss over this pet thing. A reason to form clans and settle this in an arena when the game comes out!

  • Fillfall

    I hope there’s a turtle pet available… EVERYBODY LIKES TURTLES!

  • Toil

    So much hate. And questionable analogies. In my opinion, pets are a clichรฉ but no complaints about it being chosen as a stretch goal. I’m not going to love every aspect of the game! The people I play with are like-minded anyway so we’ll just keep our pets on our ships, if we even own any. ๐Ÿ™‚

  • annoying part is that you could always release the stretch goals as FREE DLC since the stretch goal money already pays for it to be made….so why can’t you just make fun content that requires coding and time AFTER release and release that stretch goal later on for free? I don’t get it..

    • GreenStuff

      The streatch goal money pays for the developers to be able to work on the gameplay that they had already began work on. As I understood some of the team members have others jobs so they could provide for their families. Pre-order money just lets them provide and focus on this game, not work at 2 jobs and bring us Starbound sooner. These stretch goals are a way of saying ”Thank You!” for our support. It was not intended as a DLC like thing, ”the more money you give us, the more we’ll please you, sir.”
      And who knows – maybe they will add more of these suggested features after the release, but it is not a discussion about stretch goals. There will be a lot of fun content and modes, so everything is not as bad as you think.

      • Domingo Cardona

        I already know what the stretch goal money pays for, which was my point which is the fact that it’s all paid for so why not just have stretch goals that could be added later as DLC so we could of have something better than pets?

        seeing the downvotes apparently people are completely fine with pets and not better content that could have been added later for free since it’s already paid for….oh well.

  • Bootz

    Ow yea this is nice, i wanna have it!!!!

  • Eli

    Oh my god this is the best idea yet, can we name our pets?

  • Arkus

    This means the game will take more time to let us play the beta… i think they will wait until Q3 Q4 2013 to lets us play… this sux.. Still they toke my money.. D:

    • J

      The whole point is that it won’t take them longer. They will make it with the extra money and the release will be the same. I just wish the stretch goal was a quicker release instead of more content haha.

      • SHADOWDRAMON

        It will take them less because wih these preorders they can buy better equipment and they wontnec to have second jobs to buy food, electricity, etc so, i dont mind

  • AzViz

    “Each player has the OPTION of starting out with their very own customize-able pet!” ITS A FREAKING OPTION! Don’t like the starter pets? Think their useless? Simply click the “I don’t want a starter pet, thank you” during your character creation! Woopty fucking Do, it’s like magic!

    God, there are so many people who are not appreciating what they’re getting for free it’s sicking me!

    • GreenStuff

      Yup, it is sad.
      I think most of the bitter ones expected to get a really big feature because it is $1mil. Not that they think the whole game game play has been ruined.

      Children who ask for an iphone for christmas, but get something not as impressive, act quite similarly to these jerks.

    • The point is, for 1 million dollars donated, we deserve more of an expansion than lack-luster pets. No one here hates pets, I mean, let’s get pets, why not! But for such a high stretch goal of $1,000,000 it should have been something better, honestly.

      I contend not to blindly ride Chucklefish in all worshipping glory without questioning or giving feasable feedback. Be reasonable, not a zombie..

      • thetacriterion

        >”we deserve more of an expansion than lack-luster pets.”

        That’s a funny use of the word “deserve”, since you’re getting what you paid for whether there are pets or not. $15 for the game, soundtrack and beta access; more for other additional perks like forum badges or getting your name put in the game. We didn’t collectively pay for stretch goals, we paid for the pre-order packages.

      • Gavelwrench

        Wait a minute, nobody “donated” towards this 1 million dollar goal — you’ve PURCHASED the game as a pre-order with the added incentive of having access to the beta when it’s released. If you pre-order a console game at a retail store, nobody would ever consider that a donation. I wasn’t even aware there were stretch goals when I pre-ordered and definitely didn’t expect anything, much less think I deserved anything more than what I was paying for (the game itself). Anything else that gets added early as a stretch goal is just a bonus!

  • Cheesesteak

    Personally i think the idea, is a good one. i also personally voted for it when they asked on their twitter -> this was the voting page ->http://community.playstarbound.com/index.php?threads/stretch-goal-thoughts-pets.18436/

    64% voted yes for pets as next stretch goal and 35% voted no.
    SO if you guys really hated this idea then you had the chance to vote.

  • KoedGaming

    I hope Florans get a praying mantis…. I would be so happy!

  • This reminded me of “Robot wants puppy” where you go around with a cat… It would be fun to throw a cat at monsters and see him claw them to death xD

  • CATS I LOVE CATS! FORGET EVERYTHING I SAID ABOUT NO PETS! HOORAY FOR CATS!!!

  • GreenStuff

    I think the idea is great. The stretch goals are great. But the poll and the discussion about what to add was unnecessary. It is not a great idea to discuss with someone what they want for birthday or Christmas – make it a surprise, make it special not just an order. Stretch goals should be about what you want to give to your fans for their support, not what the fans can ask of you if they throw enough cash in your direction.

  • thetacriterion

    Okay, let’s go over a few things here.

    1. Your money is not funding pets. It is funding the developers being able to LIVE while developing the game full-time. Pets are only a thing because they’re a light feature that can be developed without pushing the game back any further.

    2. By preordering, you are purchasing the game and beta access. You are NOT purchasing stretch goals.

    3. The pets are optional. They do not change the game at all. They do not ruin the game at all. They do not indicate a new “direction” that the game is going.

    4. YOU. ARE. NOT. ENTITLED. TO. ANYTHING. If you pre-ordered, then you will get what you paid for. Namely, the game. Anything above and beyond that is complementary. i.e. FREE.

    5. You have every right to feel upset about this development. However, being a dick (e.g. hurling abuse at devs, other commenters, or community members in general) is another matter entirely. Don’t do that. Don’t be that dick.

    Thank you for your time.

    • Death Hawk

      Finally someone that gets it

      • TypeTen

        Well, as of this vote, 2,283 people get it and 6 people, however, don’t.

        0.26% hate rate ain’t bad. The devs are pleasing 99.74% of us; that’s brilliant.

    • Common Sense

      Upvote this man.

    • pretty much, still wonder how this got a down-vote though

      • sonofxavenger

        The down-vote was from the one person who was too stuck in their ways to see the sense. Either way, thetacriterion has it correct, and I, for one, agree with him, just like 141 other people

        • Now 673 other people, heh!

          • sonofxavenger

            as of this, 1008 other people, and only 6 down-votes. Who are the haters, like, seriously? I will never understand how people can hate having a companion, and having it prevent going insane due to loneliness. Do they want to go insane, or something?

          • Affero

            Don’t be hung up on it. Let people think and decide for themselves.

          • ztyphlose .

            as of this 1061 people and still only 6 down votes, poor haters, don’t see the wonder of pets.

          • sonofxavenger

            I know! Hopefully I can have a cat, though i probably can, judging by some of what ive seen (cat animation set gif), so that it will be more like my Earthen home, where I do have a pet cat IRL.

          • pankakeman

            I do wonder how many pets are allowed to be chosen to have on your journey. I plan to go Apex, so I hope it’s a baby primate, where I can make it learn and grow into something badass. ._.

            An epic journey consisting of me, and a pet that I can call my own (In pixel form. I actually have 5 cats IRL, which I also adore ๐Ÿ˜‰ )

          • LeoRedwind

            or an apex could have a baby human and humans could have a baby ape

          • KoedGaming

            I want a praying mantis for florans ๐Ÿ˜€

          • James4832

            “Did I ever tell you the definition of insanity?” Vaas

          • Leafshade

            Actually Einstein said that, not Vaas.

          • Lord Esperon

            I’d like to go insane. ^.^ (Although the pets are optional so I see no reason why not to add them. :D)

          • sonofxavenger

            yeah… Here’s hoping we manage to make this stretch goal!

          • Lord Esperon

            Indeedily. ๐Ÿ™‚

          • Cael

            1683 people, good sir.

          • sonofxavenger

            Now 2393, and $981,778 out of $1,000,000 required for stretch goal. I say we make it, your opinion?

          • David Frejman

            2482 and counting. xD

          • made it!

          • sonofxavenger

            10/1 says that number is still increasing when game is released.

      • bilbo bubbles

        someone flipped their computer upside down to like it again

      • OHGODWHY?

        From so many votes (above 2.000 now) it is easy possible that some ppl maybe just disCLICKED. I mean, the arrows are both near together and 2.000 were about to click this, and the other thing is “trolls” that like to dislike something that is “too” liked because it gives a feeling of might. No really, it’s true^^ But hey dont care.

    • Cooper Leabo

      You are my hero.

    • I love you.

    • I’m going to pirate this game

      If they’re living on my money to develop something then I’m funding development. In fact that’s one of the many definitions of the word. Not only that but we are purchasing stretch goals that’s the entire idea of stretch goals.
      That’s pretty much all I have to say. I’m sure it will get down voted because people want to keep the circle jerk going.

      • thetacriterion

        Nah, this was a constructive response to what I posted. There wasn’t really anything worth downvoting in your comment except that last sentence. See item #5.

        And, yes, you ARE funding development! But the impact this feature will have on development as a whole is almost nil. That was the point I was intending to make.

        Finally– I think we have differing ideas of what stretch goals are for, but I’d be content to agree to disagree on that point.

        • Blizzra

          Not to mention his posted name.

          • Milly Rainbowskittlez

            so what? do you know how many people actually buy what they pirate? ALOT. Want proof? Look at minecraft. I pirated minecraft, most of my friends pirated minecraft, and most of their friends did as well. How many of us now own minecraft? All of us, save for a few that didnt like the game.
            Secondly how much money are the devs losing out of their pocket when someone pirates the game? NOTHING. As a matter of a fact, they have a chance of making MORE money when someone pirates because perhaps that pirate will buy the game, or when his/her friends see it, they may buy it as well. But even if they dont, the devs still dont lose any money.

          • Buckstabu

            Do you have numbers? Or just your personal experience, because that’s not enough to form a consensus on. People deicded not to buy it, as soon as they pirated it. You and ag roup of friends is not NEARLY enough numbers to prove to me that piracy is “Good” You are stealing, and trying to make yourself feel better about stealing.

          • Chiram

            Piracy actually goes under copyright infringement. The reason it is not theft is because the product is copied and not stolen and therefore comes at no exact cost to the seller, like a stolen car would have since it would no longer be available for further sale.

            Just to add, I am neither making an arguement for or against piracy here, but I would very much like for the definition to be right. ๐Ÿ˜‰

          • Buckstabu

            One more thing to add onto that, To make this more clear, Let’s say I’m a car dealer, I plan on selling all these cars! You stole one, Sure i didn’t lose any money from pocket, But you just stole $14,000 I could’ve made on that. You’re a thief. Face it.

          • That’s a false analogy right there. Car dealers pay for their cars from the manufacturer. Chucklefish IS the manufacturer of a DIGITAL GOOD.

            Furthermore you cannot prove that every pirated copy is a lost sale. People that pirate the game are just as likely to buy the game after trying it (perhaps during a Steam sale?) than to not buy it at all.

            Acting as if each pirated copy is a lost sale is a terrible way to look at it and, honestly, a lot of indie games get extra sales from people pirating alphas or betas to try out the game. A perfect example I have anecdotal evidence for is Prison Architect. I have quite a few friends that have pirated the game “just to try it” and ended up putting their $30 down on it for the digital download.

            Face facts: People will pirate the game. These people would have, likely, never purchased the game in the first place. These people may then turn around and buy the game once they realize it’s badass for future content patches and whatnot.

            Now a disclaimer: I am not supporting piracy. I support intelligent debate on the topic but have long since gotten a job and become that person that buys games on sale and has a huge Steam library filled with unplayed games. I support developers giving people a chance to try the game before they buy it. I support Chucklefish. I support the pets stretch goal. ๐Ÿ˜‰

          • I agree with your post. 100%. I’ve personally pirated games and found that they were utter shit so i didn’t buy them, I pirated Minecraft and then I bought it after a few hours of playing it. I pirated Terraria and then bought it after a few days.

            Honestly every single game should have some sort of trial, that alone would reduce piracy.

            *Not endorsing piracy I just think it’s something that will happens and there’s nothing you can do about it.

          • Yes stealing a car is being a theif. Copying files isn’t theft. Please look up the definitions.

            If I pirate something and I had no intention of buying it then it isn’t a lost sale.

          • Xelphene

            Stealing is illegal. Copying and redistributing a file which’s terms of use forbid this is equally illegal.

          • Someone Else Raging

            You know, if you split those hairs any thinner, they’ll become microscopic.

            I’m not sure what makes you think that a layman is going to need to know the difference in this case? Why even bring this up? “I’m not a thief, I’m a copyright infringer!” If this is not one of the silliest cases of someone whining about being mislabeled yet.

            As for it not being a lost sale, then throw away your bowl of Stupid Flakes before sitting down and really take a consideration of this question: Why were you pirating it if you had no intent to use it?

            Now, do your homework and think that over before coming to see the answer.

            Finished?

            Seriously, it’s better if you think of it yourself.

            Alright then, even though I shouldn’t trust you as far as I could throw you, Copyright Infringer (as you prefer to be called), I’ll go ahead and give the answer.

            Because you wanted to use the product within a situation that violates the copyright of it if you did not pay for its fair use, or any other conditions set forth by the copyright holder in a terms of use agreement. Testing that game, as you most likely think of your actions being, is breaking the terms of use that the copyright holder has set forward if they have not officially released a free demo of the product. Pirates need to stop hiding behind the notion that they’re trying to change the face of gaming by distrusting developers and publishers alike and forcibly making a trial period without the copyright holders’ consent. It’s a flimsy argument at best (and that’s with me being nicest person to ever exist for even validating it as an argument in the first place), I damn well guarantee it would not be a valid defense in the legal system you oh-so-quickly cite back to as to avoid being labeled a “thief” by the majority.

          • While I do agree with your points on the legalities of piracy, I have to disagree with the lost sale bit and not just because of the baseless ad hominem argument.

            Some people don’t want things unless they can get it for free. Some people just want free stuff. That’s not a bad thing, it’s just a thing.

            You cannot prove or disprove the “lost sale” point and we both have very good arguments. You don’t pirate a thing you aren’t interested in but you also don’t necessarily ever have an intent to buy the thing in the first place. So when does the interest become enough to buy it? There’s obviously a point that happens. I can be interested in a thing but not enough to spend the money on it.

            Like I said: Intelligent, critical discussion is good about this sort of stuff. Too many people have a knee-jerk “Piracy must be crushed at all costs!” reaction and too many also have a knee-jerk “Piracy is good because we like free demos!”

            The argument that more demos would mean that there would be less piracy is also, I think, a point you cannot prove. Similar to the lost sales argument, I just don’t think it’s going to affect any numbers decently in terms of stopping piracy. You may see a decent increase in sales from people on the fence, though.

            I think we just need to realize that some some people are just going to find any way they can to get free stuff. Piracy is always going to exist and crazy-badass DRM just ends up hurting end-users.

          • Someone Else Raging

            Someone upvote this person for a very well thought-out statement. Seriously, this is actually a very great counter-argument to my bitching.

            You’re absolutely right, one cannot prove the concept of a lost sale at this time. I could even bring myself to believe that the “Piracy does equal lost sales” portion as a overblown argument, so I should have done better in tempering it in my own statement. As much as I, like anyone else, hate to admit that I was wrong, I can see that I did misuse the point in my haste.

            Honestly, when it comes down to it, I’m just looking out for my skin more than the publishers, developers, or copyright owners. As an average-Joe consumer, I just don’t want to have to deal with strict piracy laws, intense regulations, or outrageous DRM attempts from companies who are trying to combat other users who are, in factuality as of the time of writing this post, breaking copyright laws. Good reason or not, it is still illegal, and we will all suffer the ill effects of it in one way or another just so someone can get their kicks or make a point or whatever. Just boils my blood to think that I might lose valuable privileges over something that just seems like such a stupid, selfish idea in the first place.

          • Blizzra

            The main issue that started this is that the person said they were pirating the game as some kind of arcane “punishment” to the devs for doing one external thing they didn’t like. It seemed mostly like just kind of an undeserved middle finger to the devs.

          • I agree, it does. I support betas, alphas, and demos. I don’t support strange “punishments” that result in talented people losing out on money.

          • Superbuscus

            “I can be interested in a thing but not enough to spend the money on it.” So, just because people want something for free means they shouldn’t have to pay for it? You’re right, that doesn’t sound like stealing at all.

            If you’re not willing to pay for it, you shouldn’t pirate it because if you get caught, you’ll be paying WAY more than 100 copies of the game could have costed you.

          • Being interested in a thing but not enough to spend money on it is a valid feeling. I didn’t say that because people want a thing for free that they shouldn’t have to pay for it. That’s a straw man you’ve set up there.

            I don’t advocate piracy, I just like having serious discussion that isn’t knee-jerk reactions of, “It’s theft! Die in a fire!” Stealing, also, isn’t accurate for software piracy by the by. Yes, it fits the “taking something you do not have the right to” but it does not remove the original. I suppose my issue here is with the semantics of it and not with the actual reality.

            I don’t really understand what stance you’re taking here, but I mostly agree with what you’ve said. The costs of getting caught pirating are exorbitantly large. They’re incredibly disproportionate with the crime committed, in my opinion, but that’s a talk for later.

            Either way, I think you’re misinterpreting many of my statements. Possibly presuming I’m defending piracy? I’m not sure and I’m not defending anything. Again: I only like intelligent discussion of issues like this.

          • I suppose it’s more about the person who’s doing it and the reason he’s doing it that defines the moral ground here I don’t support piracy but I will concede that I pirated a Link to the past before buying it soon after I understand that there are some who have no intention on paying for it I even saw an example of it on the music page of a musician I listen to I also understand that there is no defence and my point is from a purely moral standpoint. Now if anyone replies please remember this is what I think and may even be completely wrong.

          • Yup. I love stealing cars because I have no intention of buying them so there’s no loss of money! So it’s not theft! I’m sure police will understand perfectly.

            Dumb ass.

          • Felix Hilscher

            Idiot <.< comparing a car thievery to a digital copy of a good is quite stupid. Impressive you don't see the flaw.

            Someone here had posted a link about a study in the EU that concludes that piracy of musical digital goods does in no way hurt the digital sales, but rather positively affects them.

            The difference between the car and the music is you STEAL the car, meaning it's gone, the one who actually had the keys before you broke in or took them from now has nothing left.

            A digital copy of art or music on the otherhand is just that, A COPY. Nothing lost. The original is still there.

            Digital software lies between these two. You copy it, so you don't really steal it. But to use it for free, you break into it (given it has some form of drm), which is a bit like breaking into a car. Still, main difference to our car is that the original is STILL THERE.

            This ranting about lost sales is wrong, except for one case: pure monopoly. And even this case premises that the pirating person HAS to use it explicitely for his/her everyday life or hobby (e.g.: imagine there would only exist photoshop, no paint or whatsoever. So, every digital artist, wether it's his job or not, would have to use it. That means every pirated copy is a lost sale, because there is no alternative to it and no choice to not use it) .

            That said, I really feel sorry for your narrowed thinking.

          • And I feel sorry for you. I mean, subscribing to such a whiny, utterly self serving, moronic “logic” just so you don’t have to feel guilty for stealing other people’s hard work. You’re pathetic.

          • Pax Mundus

            It means that he really has no reason to comment on the stretch goals or development. If you aren’t planning on paying for the game, then you have even less say than the rest of us in the direction development takes. And yeah, some people who pirate may pay later, but if someone explicitly states that they’re going to pirate the game, then they probably have no intention of paying. Ever.

          • That Guy Who Rages

            Oh, God, one of you people. Look, movies and media are great for fabricating the fanciful notion of “honor amongst thieves,” but its not realistic. Sure, you and your friends might have bought it, but I seriously doubt that you are the common example. For one thief who has a second thought and rights their wrong, I would bet money that there are many more that did not.

            Why do you suddenly seem to think this behavior is appropriate just because the content is digital instead of physical? Really, would you have the gall to sneak into a furniture store, take a couch out of their backrooms, then place it in your living room to see if you like it for a few days? “It’s not stealing, I was going to pay for it if I liked it.” Considering your can’t return your use of digital property, then it would be the same as you just tossing the couch out on the side of the road when you decided you weren’t going to pay for it. Sure, there are some practices that allow you to have free use of a product for a limited time to see if you do wish to purchase. Video games have that too, it’s called a demo. If a company does not have a policy to let you take home an item and test it, that’s the same as a publisher that does not have a demo available for a game. Shocking to consider, however, that such was a publisher’s choice! They don’t want your help in regards to sampling their works; if they did, they would release a demo. If you don’t want a game because the publisher decided to not release a demo? Then use consumerism: speak so with your money, not with a bandit’s mask over your face.

            Undoubtedly I’ve wasted my time with you however. You’re still going to keep on acting the way you will, so how about this: Just do it quietly so the rest of us don’t have to know. Stop trying to justify what you do. If you feel such a need to spout off statistics that you don’t have numbers to back up to defend yourself, you evidently realize that you’re doing something wrong.

            And don’t want to be called a thief for what you do? Then stop doing what a thief does and stop carrying a thief’s tools. A man who carries a lockpick will be most likely picking locks. It’s just that simple.

          • Marc Edwards

            i’m just gonna leave this here. a european comission found that piracy is good for the music industry.

            http://torrentfreak.com/online-piracy-is-not-hurting-music-revenues-european-commission-finds-130318/

          • That Guy Who Rages

            I can appreciate what you’re trying to do with this, I really do. However… there’s just a couple reasons I can’t fully accept it and forever change my views. The first: your source material is a website named “Torrentfreak”, which I feel lends to some biased journalism here. The second, is that this is just one of many studies. People still can’t confirm if aspartame is toxic, or if Splenda is actually harmful in human consumption, and this study could be one of the “rats showed no ill symptoms when exposed to sucralose” cases. At least that site does remind at the beginning:

            “Research into online piracy comes in all shapes and sizes, often with equally mixed results.”

          • Marc Edwards

            granted, “torrentfreak” may not be unbiased but that doesn’t stop you reviewing the source, linked in the article, like a good academic.

            http://www.scribd.com/doc/131005609/JRC79605

            what the abstract states is that they found a user was more likely to access a legal download site if they have accessed an illegal download site, relative to those who had not. it may only be one study, but it is not the only one. google scholar comes up with lots of papers on the psychology of people that pirate but a few papers that actually look at the economics. i’m yet to read one that finds that pirating of music decreases sales, much like radio did not decrease sales.

            http://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?hl=en&q=corelation+between+piracy+and+music+purchace&btnG=&as_sdt=1%2C5&as_sdtp=

            http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.1086/501082?uid=3738032&uid=2&uid=4&sid=21102191651887

          • ok2bnvs

            *slow clap*

          • Guy

            “Why do you suddenly seem to think this behavior is appropriate just because the content is digital instead of physical? Really, would you have the gall to sneak into a furniture store, take a couch out of their backrooms, then place it in your living room to see if you like it for a few days?” I don’t think he would because One does not simply clone a couch. If the couch was the last thing in the store and you decided to do that no one else could buy it until they reproduced more of it which would cost more money and a potential customer that would’ve bought it had it been there.

            Digital piracy =/= Theft. If I downloaded a copy of the game without paying for it, it would be like if i went to a furniture store and used a cloning machine on it. Sure they lost a potential customer over it since i just cloned the couch rather than buying it, but they still have the original to sell and thus lose no extra money over the couch.

            Here’s another example. Let’s say you’re doing an essay for a grade at school. If someone was to either steal your finished essay to turn in or just simply copy it, would it matter to you what he did? Case scenario for stealing it, you have to redo your essay completely or take an F. Case scenario he copies it, you both get A’s. Not the same end result.

            Digital piracy, even if they end up not wanting to buy it cause it sucks, doesn’t end up with a loss of money. Theft on the other hand does because more money is spent reproducing it. Once you’ve spent all your money making the original digital property, you can sell copies of it with no reproduction costs. The only thing you lose in digital piracy is potential money. You lose the chance for $1000 to go up to say $1050. No company goes from $1000 at the start of digital distribution to $950 at the time of digital piracy. If you can honestly contradict that then be my guest.

          • Superbuscus

            You DO know that if someone copied your essay and the teacher received two of the same essay, both people would get zeros and actually could get into legal trouble for copying schoolwork? You would not both get As. Pretty much everything else you said is agreeable, even though I do not support piracy, but I just had to correct you on the copying essay scenario.

          • OmnipotentEntity

            For what it’s worth. I largely agree with you. People are going to pirate the game, and there’s little to nothing we can reasonably do to prevent it, even if we wanted to, which considering the lack of DRM planned, we (largely) don’t care within the dev team.

            However, it’s in extremely poor taste to be having this discussion on this thread. I pirate things, sure, nearly everyone does. But at least I have the good taste not to tell the people I’m pirating from about it. I don’t want to know that. Why are you telling me? Why are you proud of it? In the words of The Dude, “You’re not wrong, Walter. You’re just an asshole.”

            Additionally, your argument is wrong: Because the people who are writing these posts, by and large already planned on purchasing the game, but now, to “punish a poor decision” they’re going to pirate it instead. That’s very clearly lost sales, despite your argument. I’m personally not worried about lost sales, because all I really care about is having enough to get by.

            What I am worried about is the drama flying around here. I’m sorry if you or anyone else didn’t like the 3rd stretch goal. However, can you think of a single pettier (pun intended) thing to get angry and wield pitchforks and go on an internet witch hunt about? Calm down, take a step back and get some perspective. It’s pets. Optional pets. In a game. The end.

          • Felix Hilscher

            This. +1 On a side note, stretch goals are things that were already PLANNED. dafuq, get over it. This feature would have made it in game anyway sooner or later. Sure one could say “but y u no give us better feature for release??? u got no ideaz???” but, given the time and development frame, they propably just couldn’t choose another big (fossils and nova kid are alot to implement, even with additional staff) feature. So they decided to go with something smaller. Is that so bad? you will still get all the big features we don’t even know about. So chill out.

          • I like you. Your brain makes posts that shine like rainbows.

            One slight point though that I feel must be made: The argument of the “lost sale” in this one case, yes, is wrong. However that is an exception and not the general case and that’s only giving the person the benefit of the doubt that they are not a troll or a liar.

            For the most part we are unable to prove the mythical “lost sale” due to piracy exists or is in any way significant. We just don’t have that much knowledge or a reliable way to track how many copies have been pirated and if any of those people would have bought the game if they were unable to pirate it. It’s mostly a scare tactic large publishers use to push invasive DRM on paying customers and, effectively, turn them against each other as is evidenced in many of these replies. I tend to point to vastly successful indie devs for evidence of this and even projects like Dwarf Fortress that are free (so everyone that doesn’t donate is feasibly a pirate!) and still support their small teams and have been for a long while. Now I’m not making moral statements on piracy, here… I’m merely stating the inconsistencies in our current economic perception of piracy.

            I think what’s hurting these stretch goals (and the devs if they read these posts and have sad faces afterward) is that it should be made abundantly clear for the TL;DR and skimming crowds that the stretch goals are all PLANNED features and will not impact the beta release OR the release date of the game. The extra funding will be used to rush the game out the door faster, much like extra gold can buy you those aqueducts faster in Civilization V.

          • OmnipotentEntity

            Indeed, it is very much an exception rather than a rule. And I can’t even really say it’s a hard and fast exception in this case. Because some people may not honestly have made up their minds yet, and who knows if they would have purchased either way. I’m not really worried about it, because as it stands, I’m doing pretty well. And I’m not greedy enough to want more than I need.

            I’m very much against DRM as a general rule, and I eventually want to law school up and work for the EFF, (which is why I’m writing this game, if it does well enough it can put me through college, which is nice.)

          • Even accepting that the economic impact of pirating is low that still leaves us with the quandary of why people think it is ok to take and use the work of another person without consent. Maybe money is not my end goal when I create a thing, but having people photocopy it for themselves can still run extremely counter to my intentions and be unduly invasive into my privacy.

            Personally I don’t do a kind of work where this is an issue, nor create art with this sort of investment poured into it, but I haven’t been so thorough in snuffing out my sense of empathy that I can’t recognize that other people do feel that way.

            Plus I actually kind of care about earning the things I have, but maybe that’s just because I’m getting old.

          • Zatiel

            True, and wrong.
            When you pirate a game you aren’t buying it, meaning that it’s a loss for the devs, because you are enjoying the game without paying for it.

            But it’s true that it serves the devs to make some mouth to mouth publicity, giving them the chance of people buying the game.

    • Galtoron

      Best response hands down

    • Morticharr

      Why the hell would anyone be UPSET about this development? You guys are giving us more goodies. Hell I’m shocked that we’ve made it to the second stretch goal (also very happy because FOSSIL HUNTING YAY). Nobody has any reason to be upset about any developments that mean WE GET THE GAME FASTER. If you are upset then you are cordially invited to fall in a well and not be rescued by Lassie ๐Ÿ˜

      • thetacriterion

        Well. A look at the other comments to this post reveals that there are quite a lot of people upset/disappointed. Not as many as those who like it or are neutral about it, but a lot just the same. I was just trying to be somewhat diplomatic about it, rather than outright insulting those people. :/

        • Morticharr

          The statement was meant to be sarcastic, which is largely lost in a textual format (which is why I added the ‘lassie’ thing there) and yeah I understand you’re trying to be diplomatic but people still do not need to be upset. I mean I have some vague idea of what you’re doing- only a vague idea, I majored in business not programming- but I do know it’s really hard and takes a lot of time and you’ve only got like what, ten people? That is a teeny crew for a game which blows most of the triple A titles out of the water.

          • thetacriterion

            Okay, I thought it was just a fluke before, but you seem to be referring to me as if I were one of the devs? I’m not, just so that’s clear.

          • Morticharr

            ..Oh. Well don’t I look like a bloody fool then? Well my mistake on that one. :V

      • Mero

        I think they thot that the pets where not a cool stretch goal and want did a “cooler one” and lassie is giving me the poker face i wonder why?

        • Morticharr

          Because you can’t read pah-pah-pah poker face (whoa, ohh-whooa-ohh)

          • More like paw-paw-paw poker face.
            Pets are not “saving the best for last,” but unless you want to delay the release then what sorts of things could you add in the home stretch like this?

            And remember, they’re going to be adding content after release. You know, when they’ve actually got time to flesh out complicated stuffs.

          • YEAH how dare they give us the coolest goal stretch first! those bastards!

      • ffffffffffffffffffff

        im a bit dissapointed how it was very originaly set to release summer 2012 but i guess it is VERY nearly here

        • Stรฉphane vaillancourt

          dude fuck off. If you want a fast released, bugged, shitty, lack of content, lack of dept in story, then be my guess, go to http://www.ea.com. They got plenty of titles with “your” kind of game right there.

          Over here, you should (game aint released so I can’t tell) a good quality,less chances of getting a huge list of bugs type of game.

          • Hannibal Lamb

            Your language is unnecessary children read this website, most of all mine. If you disagree you can express it without using low class vulgar tones.

          • Boo-freakin’-hoo! Do you mean that we cannot express ourselves in the way we desire just because you don’t want your children reading certain words? The notion that your children will take any harm by reading a bunch of letters arranged in a specific order is simply ludicrous. I respect that you try to keep your children out of harms way, but trying to restrict the use of specific words on the internet is impossible, and would the internet be any fun if it weren’t? Please think twice before posting such a comment again. Thanks.

          • Liam Smeester

            The internet would still be very fun even if the use of a censor was implemented.

          • madtulip

            yea, and lets burn books with the wrong content also!

          • Liam Smeester

            Or keep little kids away from them.

          • snakefrog

            Wow you sure are ignorant aren’t you? If a parent wants to keep a child away from suggested material they have a right too, regardless of if they have any control over it. You just had to be a prick didn’t you? He has his own child and he wanted to have a more child appropriate atmosphere. Sure, he probably won’t get that but you just came in like the ignorant little brony you are and attack him. He doesn’t want his kid to be exposed to such language early on in life, which is totally normal. I hope you don’t have kids because your white trash ways of thinking would just spawn another one of the millions of 8 year old kids on a microphone yelling out swears like it’s going out of style thinking he is the boss of every thing because his trashy parents let him get away with it while playing call of duty, sagging his pants, smoking weed and punching women. Your disgusting.

            Also, I have no problem with bronies, or the show and anything related too it.

          • Accan

            What about his disgusting?

          • snakefrog

            His ‘disgusting’ is a very well mannered and friendly object of uncertainty. But he needs to feed it more often, as it is hungry and lonely.

            Ha ha, You made my day. I must remember to use “you’re” when needed.

          • Accan

            haha no worries, everyone slips up

          • Hyooga

            The internet is a free place.
            There is no barrier,no real censor and no fake shields you can use.
            Children come across concepts like “sex” and “swearing” really early nowdays, and i learned that you can’t ,in any legal way, prevent a children from knowing certain words.
            The only thing you can and MUST do as a parent is educate your children towards the usage of this vocabulary.
            Thinking you can prevent an anonymous user on the internet to use the word “fuck” is the most retarded idea i’ve ever witnessed in my entire life.
            It’s YOUR duty to educate your children ,not the internet’s.
            Also, sorry if i spelled something wrong, i’m italian studying english. Also it’s “You’re disgusting” not “your”.
            Spend time with your children,don’t leave them alone on the internet. Please.

          • Jeremy Schwartz

            Some browsers have parental controls/filters in place which could result in otherwise harmless pages getting blocked, so regardless of social mores it could be a practical request to use “safe” language. Granted Disqus is technically dynamic content, so that may not apply here.

          • SnowBunny

            It is your job to educate your children, not everyone else’s.

          • Paul Kohler

            I know this is way after the fact, and this may not be helpful to you as I don’t know what browser you use, but the plugin, ‘in my words’ (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/in-my-words/ifallpipodahhpbnemkhiddofdkhlekg ) might help you avoid words objectionable to you, and progeny. Silly goose is a good replacement, and leopard for keyboard is an old favorite.

          • Joppak

            there was nothing wrong with this guys post he simply stated that he was dissapointed and why. (to contribute to the stretch goal comments) I think that all the goals are great and have their own flavor to them, with all the comments here if people are going to complain about this one why not just think of it this way; with the new race you dont need to pick that yet people didnt complain, people were really happy about it being apart of the game and the fossils you dont need to dig them up they are all cool parts of the game that if we reach the goal them we will have it on day one; its the same thing with the pets they are something you dont have to have you dont even need to select one when it asks so I see no reason to complain.

          • ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

            thank you! and it looks like people got the wrong message from my post. i meant i was dissapointed but happy about how developments coming along and there is no need to complain because it’s getting closer!

          • Personally I excuse it somewhat because they’re indie developers. They don’t have the resources to throw at- well ok, maybe now they do, but they’re not familiar with using quite that much coin, and they didn’t have this extra almost million until a few days ago. There’s a lot of stuff they have to learn last minute and unforeseen problems and so forth, and that comes with the territory.

          • ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

            looks like someone didn’t get what im saying here. I’m trying to say i was dissapointed by i guess it is a good thing because developments is coming on nicely and im happy. BUT trolls like you have to come along and find an excuse to complain. Go complain to a brick wall at least that can stand your complaning! (hell what am i saying that brick wall would probally crumble away by the time your done with it!

        • yea we all had that initial feeling but then we learned what really happened the game was leaked WAY before they ever intended it to be revealed and pepole kept harassing them for dates on release so they just game them a day to shut them up so they could continue to work dont dwell on it

        • Dustin J. Smith

          well look at the road map there is a lot to work on

    • Nightly

      I salute you sir.

    • Blizzra

      Poor Rho has been getting hit by some pretty nasty abuse for this. People are terrible sometimes.

      • Given that people automatically reject attributes applied to them that are sufficiently negative I’d like to provide an intermediate step.
        People are really narrow minded sometimes.

        Ok, anyone see how you might be narrow minded about this? Good, now read the bit about being terrible again. If you’ve been fueling the drama about these pets there’s a good chance you’re being really terrible as a person. Take a cold hard look at yourself, and try to think about other places you express this pattern of behavior.

        • Blizzra

          You seem to be making a lot of assumptions about me. I merely noted there are people that have been flinging some rather nasty personal attacks at the Devs over this issue, and found that unsavory. I find this unsavory because it is, quite simply, not a constructive way to express displeasure towards a decision you do not like. I do not intend to “fuel drama”, I was making an observation and stating my opinion on it.

          • D4l3k

            I’m pretty sure Andrew is referring to the people complaining about pets as “you” and is not passing any judgment upon you, instead he is agreeing and elaborating upon your point.

          • Blizzra

            Oh. That makes a lot of sense, actually. It’s hard to ascertain the intention of what people are saying via text sometimes. In replies, “You” tends to be directed towards the one who is being replied to, and there are people who’ve been pretty vehemently angry about this whole pets business.

    • Krauser

      thumbs up ! ๐Ÿ˜€

    • TheRealShaunsred

      *Applauds*

    • Aqualex

      You are completely right, therefore I shall now upvote your comment. (fun fact: upvoted this before I posted this)

    • jonas

      but if we wont reach 1 million we still get this right? ๐Ÿ™

      • Pax Mundus

        We reached 800k in less than a week. Any scenario where we don’t reach a mil is highly unlikely.

        • Not to mention everything in the Stretch Goals were intended to be implemented, just this extra money allows them to push it out for release by hiring a new worker for it.

      • Nick

        They’re gonna reach a million.

      • I think without 1 mil then you don’t get pets on release, but they’re still eventually in a content patch. Haven’t paid super close attention to where I heard that so I might be really unreliable here- anybody more familiar with it able to confirm this?

    • Idenar

      DON’T TELL ME WHAT TO DO. Jk <3

    • Necrucifer

      Too bad people do not understand this everywhere, including other games in this state. Good to see someone who has enough common sense and logic to know this. Voted up, good stuff.

    • Buck

      I’m just afraid it won’t hit 1 mil in time, Surely they will add it even if we don’t make it?…

      • Ozarke

        If we don’t make it to 1 million then they will probably just add this feature post-release.

    • Mr.Notyou

      This a thousand times yes, and a thousand more yes.

    • I agree with everything except part of #4, with the exception only for those who have not preordered.
      The stretch goals left out of it, dang right I am entitled. I am entitled to the best dang game that ever existed and ever will. If it doesnt match my standards then It’s my choice for any company to get my money or not. Thankfully and Coincidentally Starbound and the Starbound team appear to be building such a game, so I have entrusted them with my money. We as gamers still deserve the best, since its out of our pockets the companies thrive, they better make a product we can fully stand behind and support.

      • thetacriterion

        >”I am entitled to the best dang game that ever existed and ever will.”

        Right, see also “what you paid for” and “the game”. ๐Ÿ˜€

        • Of course man, I’m fully standing behind Starbound. This game will shake the foundation of awesome everywhere. That’s why they have my money :3(and will get more as i keep preordering more copies) I’m happy how the SB team is fully making the best game they can, far too many companies nowadays are just of the mindset “We will make a game and gamers will just have to live with it or like it how it is”

    • Taiko

      My views: more content, more to the game. Even if this is early game stuff, yay, we have stuff for the early game, not just the later game. Go devs. ๐Ÿ™‚

    • KernelPanic

      Exactly!

    • Hannibal Lamb

      You sound like a dev and honestly reading as the first post in a topic makes me not wanna pre order. I havent said anything negative about these option but frankly where do you get off posting this if your not a developer? If anything your going to hurt there chances of more pre-orders. You wanna support them, and i get that, but a post that is dropping to there level isnt the way to do it. Reason i stated this is because i asked a buddy of mine to preorder this and he texted me back “Nah, the devs sound like assholes”. And then i read this. Im sure the developers are more then capable of defending themselves. There big boys and girls bro.

      • thetacriterion

        This being the first post was not at all what I intended– it’s just kind of the way the votes fell? Honestly, the ridiculous number of upvotes my post got is kind of baffling to me. I kind of wish it hadn’t gotten so much attention.

        I also never meant to come off as a dev, but you’re not the first person to come away with that impression… which is also confusing to me? I don’t know what I did that gave that impression.

        This post was meant to be a way of addressing all the complaints/objections I’d been seeing in all the other comments, but I *was* a bit annoyed at the time, and that seems to have rubbed off on the tone of my post a bit. I also regret that.

        So… you’re not wrong. But what’s done is done, unfortunately. Deleting this post doesn’t seem to be possible.

      • You have my full permission not to pre-order. Some how the community will find the strength to go on without you.

    • Business Man

      Actually, for number 1, pets do take up development time.

      Thing is, the money they don’t necessarily need goes to paying for additional artists, etc. so they can work on these stretch goals instead of the staff that’s working on the actual game.

    • AdenSword

      YES finally someone gets it, however i do have to say one thing about number 2 you (kinda) are buying the strech goals well more of chipping in to help buy them

    • Pirate Kitty

      I’d be worried about their capabilities if they needed this money to survive after the millions Terraria made to a team that was essentially two guys plus a couple hirelings.

      The unlockables are things to get people more interested in preordering the game. There’s no deep inner meaning to it. There’s no making the game get released faster, they’re not hiring anyone extra thanks to this money. There’s no anything above and beyond, all the preorder bonuses were pre-planned and are most likely things that would be already in the game anyway. In fact, I’m sure they based the pre-order money range based on their figures from steam in the first couple days to ensure the preordering unlocks would get at those levels to begin with.

      As for your point number 2, part of your purchase ARE the stretch goals. Those goals are things they already have done or are things they would have no issues in adding quickly to the game.

      Why people would be upset about that or try to misguide them about preorders in this case being money for survival… It’s out of my mind.

      They reached a point where they could open preorders without alienating people. Most because they know they will have beta ready soon, that keeps the preordering people happy and will most likely add to the hype even if there’s a NDA for when it’s a steam release.

      • thetacriterion

        >”There’s no making the game get released faster, they’re not hiring anyone extra thanks to this money.”

        These statements have actually been DIRECTLY contradicted by things the devs have said. See the preorder FAQ and the blog post for the first stretch goal.

        Also, this team is not the Terraria team, so the success of Terraria doesn’t have much to do with Starbound.

        • Pirate kitty

          Half of ridiculous amounts of money is still half of ridiculous amounts of money. I’d still be worried about their capabilities if they blew that money up as it is.

          And no. This will not make it go faster. Hiring an artist to finish assets which they already have the design for isn’t speeding up the process nor is directly hiring someone to help finish the game. It’s to help with one given goal or another because they personally don’t want to put a day or two in it themselves. Even if it took a week to animate that stretch goal it’s close to irrelevant in the schedule of a game without a release date.

          The success of Terraria has -EVERYTHING- to do with Starbound, which is essentially an upgrade on Terraria’s gameplay. It’s the sole reason this game is in development.

          • Contradictor

            Actually, I’d like to contradict that last part.

            Starbound was being thought up BEFORE Terraria was made.
            Red and Tiy were talking about it BEFORE Terraria was made.
            I can see where you come from about how it’s a lot like Terraria, but in any other respect you are going back to the “It’s the same thing, so it’s based off of it” state of mind.

            So don’t go into that state of mind, and everyone will be happy! c:

    • so true man, so true

    • coodrawrihey

      I think it’s more of a matter of having this stretch goal over another stretch goal, and people want the stretch goals to be something that motivates them to pay. If money is going to artists and programmers making pets, money could have instead gone to artists and programmers making new environments. If people feel that they don’t want to support this project because their money is going towards something they do not support, than that’s fine. Saying pets don’t affect other parts of the game simply isn’t true. It’s called opportunity cost, bitches.

    • Chronos

      Something important to remember: As a general rule (especially on the internet) people are far more likely to be vocal about something they’re unhappy about than something they’re happy or indifferent about. People are quick pick up their pitchforks and make noise when they are mad, but most people- especially the happy ones- are content and don’t feel the need or have the interest to head to message boards. People who complain online do not represent a majority. I’m not saying they should be ignored, because they very well could be a majority, but not everyone goes to forums and posts, not everyone participates in polls in a thread. For all we know, every single person that doesn’t post on this website is either for something, or doesn’t care.

      FYI: I voted no because I’d be more interested in a different stretch goal, but it’s hardly a big deal. I’m happy either way and super excited to just see the game released.

    • Xai the dead flower

      someone want thats pets, you know, they just want rich the 1000$, and this is our reguard, i donยดt see you in the oter stretch goal saying “This tings are useless!” no, we want the pets, change the game or not, because in terraria we just have a rabbit, i think youยดr thinking arenยดt the correct, but, is youยดr opinion any way (Love and tolerate)

    • Idiomic

      When I’m deep down in a Human dungeon, I want to find this piece of text hanging out in the hard drive of some random computer I was supposed to access.

      And I will read it GLORIOUSLY.

      (Or maybe I’ll just pretend it’s on a clipboard, and that I totally didn’t proceed to read a piece of paper I wrote on earlier.)

    • Rethkul

      See, i’m perfectly happy with them adding pets to the game as long as it is optional because I don’t want one myself, doesn’t mean I should be upset that they’re an option.

    • Charlie Skog

      This wasn’t obvious?
      How stupid are people?

    • Derp Herpington

      Wait guys maybe there not 6 haters at all MAYBE they were so amazed and try’d to hit like as fast as they can but hit the hate button.( or maybe they missed the like button and did not realize they hit the hater button) So dont get mad on accidental lovers of this quite amazing comment because ur no better then the hater if u hate on the haters

    • Blunt and to the point. I respect that. xD

    • Mr.Chucklez

      Those 6 people are being DICKS. Yes. Thank You.

    • DrMattsuu

      This man is 100% correct.

      Plus pets are cool. I based my thesis on A.I. companions in games. I can tell you with a fair amount of scientific accuracy; pets are great

    • Very well said.

    • hartham

      These are rules that can be applied to most things

    • Underboss

      Stick it to them, man! I am always amazed by how much bitching people can do over free things. Here’s the kicker. Even if they did NOT pre-order, they would get the stretch goals.

      Moral of the story? Wait for release next time, you unappreciative fucks. You would get the stuff anyway. You effectively just handed your money over early and acquired beta access and stretch-goal perks.

      • Underboss

        PS- 99.997% now. Had to add a third decimal place because the whiners are so unreasonable that only .003% of the community fits the category.

  • Arashi1018

    Trolls, trolls, and more trolls looking to get off. That’s pretty much most of what I’m reading.

    Anyway, I like the idea, you know, considering it’s optional. Keep up the good work Chucklefish.

  • Thorkell

    As long as I can force it to stay on the ship I don’t care.

  • john wilson

    what are the novakid race gonna have gas following them?

  • Migelini

    This stretch goal I personally think it is great! Im still wondering how they are going to work. Are they going to have a Diablo/Torchlight Effect or how effective they are going to be. But, other than that, this looks a fantastic add. Keep up the good work!

  • M G

    I love the idea of pets (with emotes and/or 3 letter/symbol words) but I am worried that they will have a negative impact on the game. If you add these to the game please do a good job. The simplest of mechanics can make something fun or annoying, so I recommend programming and testing different ideas for their mechanics instead of just choosing one from the start.

    • Chevron664

      thats why its a stretch goal. as with they said Novakids:

      “Weโ€™ll be using the extra money to pay for an additional artist to create their assets, so their creation wonโ€™t delay development at all.”
      each stretch goal is probably just a higher possiblity of getting better equipment and more employees to help make the game even mo’ better!

  • While we wait, here is some screenshots of starbound ๐Ÿ˜€ http://www.indiekings.com/2013/03/starbound-terrain-generation-screenshots.html

  • Dragonk

    Just be sure to make them placable so they can walk around my house/ship while they aren’t following me around. That will make me very happy.

  • Benjabby

    I really hope that:
    A) they can find hidden items / or something similar that normal pets cant do
    B) they provide unique breeding possibilities

    Either way its awesome ๐Ÿ˜€

  • colorbeam

    I love this! However I think 1,000,000 dollars is a little too far a stretch.

  • ray-man100

    Regardless of the fact of whether I may be selfish for saying this, but a quarter of a million dollars for this? Come on, this isn’t nearly as to the standard as the previous stretchgoals, I mean, it even says that you can ALREADY fight and capture pets in game, all this is doing is making you pick a pet from the start, and they couldn’t do that for less than $250,000? Seems really, really dodgy. I know this is being added later, but they could easily make something much more worthwhile than this FOR THE ONE MILLION DOLLAR STRETCHGOAL.

    • Junker

      Hey, look on the bright side. Maybe the steepness of this goal just means they’re running out of time before the game is released.

  • Boss Prinny

    Was hoping for penguin mode this tier. Oh well.

  • Whats up next?

    Hey look, I don’t like pets as a goal, so to express my opinion I will wait for the next goal before I pre-order.

    ^
    The proper way to “boycott” this goal, and still love Starbound.

  • cool man dude boy

    I, for one, would love to have a kitteh at my side while I travel the universe! And who knows! The next stretch goal just could be something wicked cool, like bows or magic ๐Ÿ˜€

    • Admiral

      I like to take the approach of “any significantly advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic” I mean, look at the cube that makes water turn to ice under your feet. The jetpacks to fly, presumably fireball guns, and armors for buffs. It makes not difference to me if im using up my “tech points” (or whatever) instead of Mana

  • monzonico

    you can enter more clothing for different races? that the birds can wear shirts and other things like pants….

    • Tacomanxxx

      They are able too, where did it say they had to be naked?

  • The Space Monkey

    Can we exchange the fossils goal for the pets cus i dont see us getting to 100k and who wants fossils anyways right

    • LuciferSam

      how about no? I would prefer a badass dinosaur than an useless kitty

      • The Space Monkey

        well yeah if the so called “badass dinosaur” follows you around then yeah i would too but i doubt it will

  • Nyan pets :3

  • juxtor

    okay so it’s not quite as cool as a new race or a new major feature, but I have to say it IS a cool feature. I just hope that in addition to selecting a pet when you start, you can get additional pets like this at later points in the game. And more importantly we had better be able to tell our little pet to stay in one location or room so they don’t have to follow us everywhere all the time. and it is stated that these pets will indeed be useful in some way, so it would be nice for a little bit of information on how this would be so.

  • Malthael2797

    This isn’t a bad feature but…I don’t think it’s worth the 1 Million stretch goal. I mean I don’t care much for just non-combat pets.

  • Orinoco68

    I’d be pleased if they had some sort of functionality similar to the pets in Torchlight 2. Suppose they had a separate inventory for item storage so you could send them to trade with another player/deposit stuff into storage on the same planet while you’re busy exploring.

    Or perhaps each type had a unique ability to heal the player, put enemy monsters to sleep or so on. I’d become really attached to mine if they were useful like that, and adventuring with other players would be even more interesting with each species having a different way to help out the team.

    Still even if they are just cosmetic I wouldn’t be too cut up, they look so damn adorable ๐Ÿ™‚

  • DC

    Seems really anti climactic

  • Liam Smeester

    I love you.

  • RickyRicardo

    I really hope there are robotic pets.

    • Liam Smeester

      Me too! For the Glitch!

    • Orinoco68

      A clockwork cymbal-monkey that screeches OBEY! when a monster gets near? ๐Ÿ˜›

  • Captain Olimar

    You guys should really make a tuxedo cat variant. I would love this :3

  • Acedrew89

    Here’s the thing…we haven’t even made this stretch goal yet and maybe we never will. So calm the hell down. This may become a bunch of nothing.

  • Jake

    What a fun idea (Regarding the pets). I think pets should be somewhat like they are on Realm of The Mad God. And if you haven’t played that, than let me explain. I think pets should have different rarities, (Common, uncommon, rare, legendary, and divine). A pet can start out common, and through experience (obtainable through special items) can be fused with another pet. These fused pets create a new pet of a higher rarity. Well, check out this page to see what i mean. Ignore the part about abilities, as it is stated that pets will not fight/help you in battle. https://forums.wildshadow.com/wiki/realm-mad-god/pets

  • Quark

    To be honest, I would have been happy with a super cool looking hat when we hit the 1 million stretch goal. The fact we get a starter pet is way better than that, I think. xD

  • God

    one of my guild members constantly talks about his cat “coco” in chat. He is very excited about this. I am slightly too.

  • Warcore

    lol when the Devs put this stuff out i always get nervios becuase im scared we arert gonna make it in time and miss out on that thing

  • Jebediah Oldenheimer

    This stretch goal seems to be a bit less desirable to some people, but I personally think a customizable pet is a nice addition. However, there is a way they could be made more useful than just being a walking-around companion. They could have a “find” command added in. If you’ve played Megaman 7, you may remember the Rush Search upgrade, where Rush would sniff and scratch at the ground and find various items. This concept could be adapted to Starbound by having the pets find stuff under the top-most block its standing on. Maybe somewhere between a 10-20 block radius, they could find some kind of anomaly in the ground, like open caverns, less common minerals, treasure chests or what have you, and alert the player that there is something worth checking out in that general area.

    It wouldn’t take away the fun of spelunking because they would only be able to look in the immediate area and no further and wouldn’t be able to exactly pinpoint anything, just hint that there’s something around for you to find. I think it’d be a rather helpful addition to the pets, and, although I’m not a programmer or anything, probably shouldn’t take much code to get working, since it would just have the pet play a search animation and use some relatively simple algorithm to analyze the surrounding area and check if there’s anything rarer than the common elements, before alerting the player on the findings. I mean, if you think of it this way, when you’re just walking along the overworld or deep in a cave, you’re almost always passing by loads of deposits of some kind of useful ore that you’d probably never find unless you scoured each and every pixel of the world for them. I’d sure love a feature such as that, anyway.

  • Sinvoid

    Honestly think the 1mil stretch goal could be better used. Something like the Space Station? This is just my opinion though.

  • yay, i know we wont get pets. and im GLAD!

    • Cyan

      Actually we will get pets, if we hit the goal they will be in the game at launch if we don’t hit the goal it will be added as a later patch.

      • Cyan

        Plus they already confirmed that you can tame monsters and make them your pets that follow and fight for you, these… don’t they just look cute.

        • Logic Bestower

          I’d say so!

  • :3 I’d like to see these in their entirety. I wonder what they’ll do. I hope they’ll go into the online character creator :3 as well as the Novakids.

  • Nol

    I don’t get why people are losing faith in this new stretch goal. It clearly states “they make for lovable and USEFUL companions all the same!” The word “useful” has the potential to mean so much yet people seem to be missing that part. Also, they could end up giving each pet a unique passive ability that makes each special and worth having as a pet. For all we know, the devs have already ended up planning to give them abilities like picking up items from afar or distracting or luring enemies from the player (also helpful if sneaking is still implemented) or being able to take direct control of them to scout ahead while you stay safe. There’s lots of useful non-combat ways the pets could help.

    Also, are people really upset that stretch goals are being added in the first place? They said it wouldn’t hinder game development and would allow them to hire another team to work on them so it’s there for release. It literally only adds and makes it even better or more in-depth. You give people the option to buy an awesome game before it comes out for a discount of the original price that gets it to them even faster and add free bonus content to reward the players for spending money on their game and give incentive for more to preorder and almost everyone with an opinion gets upset and cries foul.

    I personally would like to know more about how useful the pets will be but I’m not about to be a jerk and send nasty comments towards the devs to get answers. If anything, we can be glad they made it optional and didn’t end up forcing us to have a starter pet that we might not want.

  • thatguy

    you say they are useful, how? not having a go just want u to be clearer.

  • mtomic

    will the be customizable?

    • Strongbuns

      Did you read it?

      “theyโ€™ll be able to customize through the character create screen”

  • Novakid

    Unless I can throw my cat in a mech suit, this feels more or less a bland stretch goal. I mean, I still love the idea, but this would have probably been better as the 500k stretch goal. I’ll be glad when it makes it to 1 million, but I’m not going to be checking in every hour like I did for the first two stretch goals.

    • Logic Bestower

      Yeah, it isn’t the best of the stretch goals. But who knows, maybe you will. This is just planned and not a finished feature, after all.

  • Domo59105

    Catbug!

  • plz i want schnauzer

  • Macromute

    YESSSSSSSSS!

  • Macromute

    YESSSSSSSS!

  • Galactic Ninja

    For those who are posting negative comments, i’d like to say Screw you. These dev’s are putting their hearts and souls into making this game. Why do you people have to bitch about one feature that doesn’t even push back the date of the game? “Pets? Are you ****ing serious?” “Why the F*** does this even need to be in game?” I’d like to challenge you to make a game even close to being as successful as this. Otherwise, shut the hell up. The dev’s don’t deserve your crappy attitude, and neither does the rest of the community. Don’t have a comment that is actually worth reading? Then don’t post it, simple as that. Instead, wait for the game like the rest of us.

  • I thought it wasn’t going to be a 1million stretch goal? Not that I’m complaining, i’m giddy about the Novakids and the Fossil hunting, but all I kept seeing in the “Voting” forums for starter pets was it didn’t have to be a 1 million dollar goal and wouldn’t be. Because I HIGHLY doubt it will reach 1 million.

    • Exxion

      I’ll be shocked if it doesn’t reach a million. It’s over $800,000 after around a week and people will be able to pre-order for at least a couple months.

  • KikiCookie

    First off I don’t see why are you getting mad at this development it is just goals they put out to have more fun in the game and it is a choice onCe you already per-order your getting your game and stop being so moody over things. They are working their hardest to make the game full enjoyment. I wanna see you try to make your own damn game and try to keep a level head with all the the d&ckness going around you aint making it any better. Please do keep the stick out of your asses. I RATHER HAVE THEM TAKE THERE TIME ON A GAME THEN BE DISSPOINTED BECAUSE THEY RUSHED IT FOR NUMSKULLS WHO WANTED IT OUT I KNOW ITS BEEN A LONG WAIT BUT YOU KNOW WHAT IT MAKES IT MORE WORTH!

  • NeoTheFox owo

    The game gets better and better, keep it up!

  • JohnBlackhill

    I don’t really know why people got mad at this. I mean, they are ADDING more features without pushing Starbound’s launch or its development. Novakid are awesome, fossils are awesome, and hell yes, having a pet from the beginning is also awesome.

    If pets don’t alter the game mechanics at all, why are these guys so mad about it? -_- Meh, haters gonna hate I guess…

    Anyways, keep it up Devs!! Starbound is going to be truly epic!! ^^

  • aaa

    People who buy already Terraria should get -50% off coupon.

    • Derp

      This game or its developers has nothing to do with Terraria.

      • Exxion

        Well, Tiy worked on Terraria (I think), but I agree with your point.

    • Buckstabu

      I really hope your kidding.

  • Keough0

    I seriously love this development team :3

  • eL TORes

    damn, if this goals were the first…. ๐Ÿ™

  • Thrator

    I just want to say, that the dev who posted the message said, that it wasn’t needed for the stretch goal to be 1.000.000$ and seeing that the pets are not such a big addition as a new race or fossils, because they just chase you (don’t know if they have any functionality), I don’t see it as a 250.000 $ + stretch goal.
    I’m happy with the idea of pets, though I would have done it for a 100.000 $ stretch goal.

  • Frothyturtle .

    i really want a robot dog pet for my glitch character, that would be amazing.

    • Jordan Teska

      Someone said earlier they wanted a pet toaster. I want a pet toaster dog.

      • Business Man

        W-Will it poop out toast and waffles?!

        • Jordan Teska

          What’s the point if it doesn’t?

  • Rekombo

    If you want you want to help game, buy copy for me ([email protected])

    • Brandon

    • liam

      mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmno

  • Aqualex

    I would just love to have a tiny dragon as a pet. I mean, come on. Dragons. DRAGONS.

  • Kakalakapoopyshire

    Stop making cool stretch goal lol!You guys are doing great personally i didnt like the fossils but thats okay i realy hope to get this stretch goal once again

  • JoshF

    I dont understand why people are mad that the less awesome stretch goals need higher amounts of money… That just makes sure the awesomest features get added and maybe the less awesome ones dont make it right away.

    That being said, I am happy with it. It’s nothing more than a way for the development team to thank the community for supporting them and buying their game.

    Chucklefish, you guys are doing great and have an amazing community. Don’t be discouraged by the vocal minority. I know several people who are more excited about Starbound than any AAA title and I’ve enjoyed the small part I’ve gotten to play in your games community.

    • thetacriterion

      Apparently that’s EXACTLY the reason why the cooler stuff was front-loaded into the lowest stretch goals. Because the devs wanted those features too.

  • NinjaOtter

    I want dis :3

  • Kilo

    You know, I think the biggest problem here wasn’t that it was a bad stretch goal. I think it’s that, if you really look over the last two, This stretch goal seems hilariously anti-climactic. The first stretch goal literally added an entirely new race into the game. And with this new race, comes an entire set of items and goods themed for them. *This is a likely assumption, as every race will have species specific items and aesthetics. The second stretch goal added a new gameplay addition entirely, allowing people more things to find than just ores and other shiny objects, and even bring said fossilized finds back from the grave. *Which thus links it to the pet mechanic we already had.* And after all this, the final stretch goal, is… Ohhey, you can spawn with a pet instead of just taming one early on. Now don’t get me wrong, This is a very nice thing to have in the game. And I’m willing to support the Devs for making a great game that I know all of us are very happily looking forward to. And let’s not forget. They, not once, ever, had to even CONSIDER rewarding us for helping them raise money by pre-ordering. They didn’t have to do any of this. Now while I will HONESTLY admit that the stretch goal seemed completely out of place, and even honestly seems like it’s out of place *Because lets face it. The money to REACH the stretch goals comes right out of our pocket. People can argue until the cows come home, the fact is, we kind of are indirectly paying for these things. We don’t get them at launch if we don’t pay enough in pre-orders to reach them.* I will happily support them for doing this for us when they could have done nothing. So yeah, just thought I’d weigh in on the situation. Hope this helps diffuse the storm some.

  • bodziosek

    good I’ve paid and there are some new addons added for free nice job developers ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Krauser

    guys don’t you think that 1 million is allllllot ?? :'<

    • Morticharr

      Not really, no. Look at how much Bioshock Infinite cost to make: /two hundred/ million. That was for production AND marketing. 1 million is friggin’ chump change, dude. But it means that the devs’ salaries and the company’s bills are paid for at least a year. Game development is hella expensive.

      • Ego

        Wow, you’re comparing Bioshock: Infinite to Starbound? Lmao.

  • Vladimir Lastraud

    Hmm, KITTIES! I’m okay with this, I’ll have a fuzzy friend to help my Novakid make Jurassic park.

  • PancakePuncher

    Why are people complaining? The release from what I’ve read isn’t estimated till June/July. These goals keep people interested. A new race, Fossils, and now pets? Dude, I’m happy. The game from the little bit we’ve been given seems massive with so many features. Now they’re allowing people to pre-order months in advance and they’re giving us goals that show us their dedicated to this game. No one understands the amount of time and effort it takes to make a game like this. Support these guys to show them that we want them to really shape this game into a epic adventure. People need to just shut up and if you don’t want to spend your money then don’t, but don’t come in here complaining because the dev’s are promising us that our support and money isn’t lining their pockets. It’s going right back into the game to make it better for all of us. Most games don’t even show you how much money they make, minecraft has made MILLIONS and this game hasn’t even broke 1 million(yet, hopefully…. gimmi dem petz!) Let alone other dev’s don’t promise more add-on’s.

    I for one and fucking(Pardon my language) stoked for starbound. I love minecraft, but I also love terraria because it just has so much more game-play aspect to it. Starbound looks like it’s just gonna be endless! I already have this game at the top of my list for streaming, my desktop consist of a slideshow of all the starbound art on this site! Let’s rock and roll man!

    • Morticharr

      We are in agreement, good sirrah or madame!

  • Taiko

    Personally, I’m actually enjoying this idea; it may not be a huge thing, but it doesn’t break the game, and best of all, like the customizing of your character’s appearance, this actually goes a long way for roleplaying. Nominally, BACKSTORY: what would make your character want to have a pet like this? Why have these races each chosen these animals to domesticate and turn into loving companions? It’s history both for the characters and the races as a whole, and I applaud that.

    Sure, it’s not going to set your world on fire, but as they’ve said, this is a low cost addition, and I really like it. Whether these guys act as an inventory space, finding objects, or just bringing things to you, they’re sure to be a nice addition, all the same. Less likely to break balance to the gameplay too – in fact, this could even lead the character into having those larger, stronger pets, so it’s not just something that comes out of nowhere. A tutorial you don’t know you’re playing, in some sense.

    In short: I like this goal, I think it’s a great addition, and I hope we get to it. ๐Ÿ™‚ Many thanks to the devs for thinking of something so simple and yet so smart.

  • MetalRenard

    Congratulations to all of you at Chucklefish, you’ve come a long way and I hope you don’t let some silly people make you feel like you’ve done any less than achieve greatness.

  • I enjoy how the stretch goals are all designed not to impede the release of the game.

    I do not enjoy how people assume the stretch goals are bad things and things that Chucklefish has not thought out and planned for.

  • TreeofSecrets

    It will be interesting to see Novakid starter pet if it really is pets originating from their homeplanet. Perhaps a floating super tiny sun about the size of a kick-ball? (scaling it down, obviously) Either way, I’m sure that, although I am typically not that kind of guy, there will be that one pet that I will absolutely adore and cherish forever. Which brings me to a great suggestion: cross breeding! Breed a cute, nonviolent pet with a tough, ugly, fighting pet and get an uber-cute yet uber-dangerous pet! Yay! Thetacriterion, I thank you for saying that, although I do not like rough language, the general idea makes me happy you said that. There needs to be more people who stick to the facts and who put out those who decide to abuse people with their near-sightedness.

    • Business Man

      There’s also the chance of getting an uber-ugly yet uber-fluttershy-friendly pet.

  • SirBeardus

    I just hope that animals can pick stuff up, because if they can I’m going to name them all Billy Mays, so they can continuously bring me fantastic new products.

    • Business Man

      Yeah, I want extra inventory space ๐Ÿ˜€
      If they do pick stuff up and put them into their own little inventory, I’ll name all my starter pets “The Hobo”
      Since hobos go about their lives picking up cans and plastic to recycle them into those big vending machine things near supermarkets for like 50 cents each bottle/can ๐Ÿ˜›

      Yeah, I’m talking too much crap that you probably don’t even fully understand. :3

      Point is, hobos make a living out of picking up our litter.

    • The Cheese NInja

      THANK YOU!!!

    • Eccentric

      Hey, it’s Billy Mays here with this new fish sword…

    • ZJThalen

      /applause

  • Guest

    so let me get this straight, people are getting upset because the devs are giving them more content? How does one get mad at someone trying to do there job better than what is expected?

    • Business Man

      Actually, what if you wanna get a guy fired but he’s doing his job so awesomely that there’s no chance in Hell it’ll happen?
      Ah, didn’t think of that one ;P

      • Matt

        Most of your responses are so pointless

  • Gavelwrench

    Just wanted to chime in and say thanks to the devs for even adding stretch goals in the first place! I wasn’t even aware that we’d be getting extra features added early by meeting stretch goals, I was just excited to pre-order the game itself (and have access to the beta whenever it’s ready). I don’t understand why some people are reacting negatively to this and acting entitled, it’s just silly. Looking forward to the game when it comes out!

  • I wonder if through a future patch that they’ll allow you to raise your pet to the point of it being able to fight, just as if you had captured it like other creatures.

    • Business Man

      They’re domesticated animals. And insects.
      This isn’t Pokemon; they won’t be using Fissure or anything.

  • Zatiel

    Well, I kinda understand people Upset… the two other stretch goals were simply… amazing, I mean new race and collectibles, but some useless vanity items aren’t that exiting… Im not upset about it, but I wont be checking the page every hour to see if it’s completed. =/

    • Taiko

      Excuse me, but…where does it say that they’re vanity items? Sure, they don’t fight, but they’re helpful in some way. Extra inventory? Perhaps they collect items for you? We don’t know, but if the devs say they have a use besides looking cute, then we’d best be optimistic and wait till the game comes out before we judge them.

    • Business Man

      What part of “cute and useful” didn’t you understand?

      Also, I’m sure the fossils won’t simply be collectibles, but if they were, how are they any more useful than these pets?
      Collectibles are just that. You collect them and go about your life.

      • Matt

        So where did this come up from

  • Darulio

    Complaining about this stretch goal is like buying a new car, and then the dealer asks if you want one of those scent things to put on the mirror in the car to make it smell different. You kick the dealer in the groin and storm off because you don’t like the freshener he offered you.
    =/

    • Nol

      This oh my this

  • Morpheel

    “Each player has the option of starting out with their very own customize-able pet!”

    Don’t like it? Opt out.

    -Morpheel

  • Baconbeard

    I bought the game for the kittys.

  • Killer Snowman

    …Will there be a caterpillar?

  • Serenar

    I want a ferret.

  • Scellow

    This game will be the most AWESOME GAME of this decade !!! Keep it up guys i love you ! <3 <3

  • SkyWolff

    You must let Avians have cat pets. I mean a bird having tamed its worst enemy and made it its pet. I beg you make it happen.

  • Shane-o

    “I just hope that animals can pick stuff up, because if they can I’m
    going to name them all Billy Mays, so they can continuously bring me
    fantastic new products.”

    You win the internet ๐Ÿ˜€

  • Nol

    I love how the Avian looks like he’s refusing an apology from his pet and acting all serious about it.

  • Shane-o

    “2. By preordering, you are purchasing the game and beta access. You are NOT purchasing stretch goals.”

    How are the stretch goals achieved? Was there a Kickstarter or does the pre-order money go toward the stretch goals?

    • Streak

      I think it means the stretch goals will be available for everyone, not just those that preordered. The preorder money is what’s going towards the goals.

    • Business Man

      They mean that when you buy whichever pre-order option, you’re not paying extra money for the stretch goals.

      You’re just buying the game and beta access and the extra profit they make from our pre-orders goes to paying for other workers to work on these stretch goals. That way, development won’t get delayed by even a second. (Since the main staff will remain working on the games already-planned things and not these extras.)

      • Matt

        So you just reworded what he said

        • RedDire

          Who is “he”?

          But anyway, yeah. That was the point.
          Shane-o didn’t understand the wording of the quote so I gave him a thorough explanation of it.

  • Can we get any confirmation that pets can be left at the base if you get tired of them after playing for awhile?

    • Business Man

      No, they definitely won’t do that; but I’ll bet that you’ll have the option to un-equip/equip them like in the MMOs and stuff.

      • Matt

        They probably will

  • The most awaited additional

  • I think that poor penguin will be saved when we get hit Payday.
    His gonna hit the buttom of the screen in a few hours.

  • Herald Rejn

    When go out Starbound

  • schnauzer plz

  • schnauzer plz~

    • Exxion

      How many times have you said that so far? At least three. Calm down.

  • cole4110

    I though this feature was going to be in the game already not part of a stretch goal… :/

    • Quark

      They were going to have pets, but the stretch goal is that they’re going to add starter pets that you get to customize.

  • Rakha

    I have an idea for Hylotl pets!
    Goldfish in a fish bowl, but with wheels ๐Ÿ˜€
    Or maybe those fish that can live on water, or something.

    • Taiko

      A salamander perhaps?

  • The Red Rabbit

    Guys you’re doing a great job!, seriously don’t pay any attention to the people that say otherwise, you’re going to make an awesome game for a lot of people to enjoy and have fun on. All of my friends can’t wait for the game to come out and we all really appreciate how much work you’re putting into this EPIC GAME!

    To sum up, you have our support and thank you from all of us!!

  • DeotayDeity .

    Hopefully they don’t clog up the game. That’s my only concern.

    • Taiko

      Clog the game…how exactly? These little guys are the equivalent of starter equipment as far as pets go.

      • DeotayDeity .

        As in visually. It’s not an impressive or fun sight to see critters filling up the screen for no real reason and since everyone has one from the start, it’s highly likely it’ll happen.

        • Taiko

          Wouldn’t that be a concern for later on in the game, though, when you have the larger, wild pets in the fray? These little guys are unlikely to clog up a cupboard, much less the entire screen.

  • mega

    i would like the poptop to be a pet, they just look so cute..
    aside from the jaw that’s going to bite your hand off

  • Sashley

    Hope this comes out soon. I check the website every day for new things. Me and my mates are massive terraria fans and we have been waiting for this for about 2 years…

  • MDK

    I hate entitled people. I can’t see how getting extra stuff is a bad thing if enough people preorder the game. Most companies will just sell you the game and then charge for DLC along the way. Would these people be happy if there wasn’t any stretch goals at all? I know what I’m paying for and everything after that is a bonus. Even if I don’t like it why on earth would I complain about it?

  • Redscarab

    What will the glitch and novakid have as pets?

    • Xenorax

      The Glitch need Toasters, and the Novakid need Dwarf Stars.

  • Glitch alpha

    I hope we get pets they will be epic

  • TechCrazy

    I want a dragon for a pet

  • tclww

    150k to go

  • Liam Smeester

    Can you make it so you can choose what kind of pet from what race you want? Because I want to be a Glitch but have a cat.

  • Neamento

    I feel like I’m the only one excited by this feature. It’ll give extra customisation, the possibility of extra hints and it says useful companions, so who knows what else? I’m pleased with this.

    • Sarzael

      I also am ๐Ÿ™‚

    • Taiko

      Ditto; like I mentioned below, this will not only function as a tutorial for pets, but it also adds to the backstory of the race and the players themselves. Very much like it.

  • Ankhemotep

    I -must- have a fox pet. Do you know how adorable my space-faring fox-child will be?

  • This is an entirely reasonable stretchgoal seeing as they didn’t really expect to reach this many preorders. They had to come up with something they could do both quickly without taking too much time away from development. Seeing as they had already finished their previous, and some would argue “cooler” stretchgoals, they had to come up with something else to keep preorders coming in. This is why I personally find pets as a stretchgoal completely reasonable, but because of the lack of originality it might pull peoples strings a little, which I can also understand.

  • Own *–* please make a million

  • NeonDrain

    guess this stretch goal ain’t happenin’

    • Iamyew

      it totally could happen… they’ve earned another 100k since I checked it last week. Pre-Orders will continue to trickle in. I just hope they let you have these pets in addition to monster pets. Much in the same way that WoW let you have vanity pets and hunter pets in the same time. If that’s the case, please combine the pets with the fossils, because I want a baby fossilized living raptor again LOL ๐Ÿ˜€

    • Gavelwrench

      I’d imagine pre-ordering will be open right until the game officially launches and not stopping at the beta release, just like how retails games work. There’s plenty of time (potentially 7 months or so) to still hit that goal.

  • VolatileBullfrog

    I’m curious who has $1k-2k to spare that backs things like this. Don’t get me wrong, if I had a couple G’s to burn, I would totally hurl it at the screen for Starbound.. I’m just wondering who it is; other developers? investor-stock-market-types? perhaps in this case, little green men?

    • Mr.Notyou

      Not all us alien’s have that kind of cash!… I think it be really funny if Notch purchased the statue insert tier.

      • dragontyron

        I would not doubt that in the slightest.

  • Lynzkar Aka Mushie

    Just courious, do we know anything else about pets? maybe if they will grow stronger, randomly grow rocket launcher on their backs as they level up (That was kinda ironic. However if they could evolve random “weapons” , based on race, and how they have been raised, would be awesome.

    • Taiko

      To my knowledge, pets don’t really level up; you simply find animals in the wild, tame them, and then they work with you. As another pointed out, these guys aren’t Pokemon. :-p I could be wrong though.

  • WE WON’T MAKE IT!

    looks like we won’t reach this goal ๐Ÿ™

    • Mr.Notyou

      I wouldn’t lose hope just yet… considering we have no idea when the game will be released. Give it a week more or two.

  • Grassguy

    Penguin, Fox, Slime (virorb could be one, like the DNA), Living hat?, Fire-breathing chinchilla and Obsidian dragon (No, this is not from dragonvale). Please see, it is OK if these are later pets

  • Dargom778

    if my novakid can not have an energy based pet i am going to be quite disappointed

  • Namiwakiru

    Don’t lose hope just yet, I have noticed that SB has been mentioned in a few places over the last few days, interest is growing

  • ListenUpEveryone!

    Ok everyone. Everyone who’s preordered Starbound (or every big Starbound that hasn’t preordered it yet) lets try and convince someone you know (family, friend, enemy, online friend, alien friend etc.) to also preorder Starbound. That way we should be able get double the amount of contributors.
    (Just trying to reach more strech goals)
    (Cats are awesome)
    (Starbound’s awesome)
    (Lets reach these stretch goals people)
    (This isn’t necessary but try)
    Vote up if you do convince someone!

    • Glitchaphobic

      I agree.

    • ListenUpEveryone!

      Vote up if you agree.

    • ListenUpEveryone!

      Vote up if you agree!

  • jeez, really? it’s a fifteen dollar game guys. I don’t remember anyone losing their Shishi when the 30-60 dollar Fallout New-Vegas’s “let’s make a whole chapter with creepily over religious, historically inaccurate Native Americans stuck in a boring valley”* expansion came out- they just shelled out another pile of cash for it. It was fifteen dollars before, at the lowest tier, and it’s still fifteen dollars with a feature you don’t have to use…quit being big fat stinky diaper-babies about it, eh?

    ((*- Honest Hearts- dear God I am still mad at them for that, being a Native American myself. : ))

  • Xnez

    is it just me or have preorers slowed down a LOT? COME ON GUYS its not over until your accounts are maxed out!! XD

  • KITTAYS!

    This is, by far, the BEST Stretch goal of Starbound!

  • $110,000 to go >:3

  • The main reason we hear a lot of people complain is because those are the most “vocal” people. It’s a shame, but true, that people who complain are a lot more noisy then people who compliment. Even more so those who are natural. Remember that there’s a lot going on in this game already. We haven’t even gotten our hands on it yet and there’s still a lot to look forward to here.

  • This was a great add-on to an already sweet looking game. Tiy, you and the gang are doing an awesome job.

  • Ice_Korin

    Has anyone done the maths on how many people we need to reach this?

    • Cyan

      If they only pay the min 15$, 6333 people.

      • Ice_Korin

        woah, thanks for that ๐Ÿ™‚

  • desonyli

    Oh sweet! ๐Ÿ˜€

  • Proud Quatro Pixel Owner

    I know why they couldn’t think of anything better… All the good stuff is already in the game!

  • Not sure how I feel about this… I mean, really? Million dollar stretch goal on pre-sales? Damn.

    • Peter J. Ramaglia

      Ok so tell me then, what do you feel about this current stretch goal? What exactly is the problem with it?

      • I think having little pets are nice and all, but I just think its a little silly we are pushing for one million before this game comes out just for a little add-on. Personally though, I don’t really have a problem with any of it…

  • Jordan Jones

    I don’t think people are really articulating the problems they have with the pets system. I get why people like it but as much as I have seen on it, I’m not a fan. I think the pet system has potential but my problem is how it is being presented and its implications. My problem comes mainly from the idea that the pets will be โ€œloveable and usefulโ€.

    Being โ€œloveableโ€ implies to me, the idea that pets are designed to be cute and evoke a certain nurturing emotion from the player. I feel like this idea intrudes on some of the core ideas that this is a sandbox game where the player decides what type of environment they want to create. I have nothing against people that want a lovable pet or think the juxtaposition of wiping out planets and being a plague on the universe while being followed by a kitten is funny. I just really hope that design isnโ€™t the only option because only having a โ€œloveableโ€ creature artificially dictates how the player should feel.

    The pets depicted have speech bubbles implying they will also use leet speak, or whatever you want to call it, to communicate. Again I donโ€™t find it cute or funny. I donโ€™t enjoy when I see it online but I wouldnโ€™t say anything to people directly because people can do what they please and who am I to stop them. Itโ€™s just not a culture I want to be part of. I hope there is an option for them to use decent English. Maybe it could be a player choice when you create your pet.

    Itโ€™s also stated that pets will be โ€œusefulโ€. I have no problem with the intrinsic idea of a useful companion, just that it takes some of the idea of them being optional away. If they have a purpose then it implies it will be detrimental to not use one. In the same way you donโ€™t need to use fire flowers when you play Super Mario Bros. but when you get down to it actively avoiding them seems like a bad idea.

    So really my problem is with the lack of aesthetic choices given to the player, which seems really out of place in the game where player choice seems to be king. Being able to have a pet that isnโ€™t designed to be โ€œloveableโ€ ONLY would put some people at ease. I would be more excited about it. Small robots or some more neutral creatures would really be appreciated. (I like the idea of a small robot companion a lot though.)

    All this being said I just pre-ordered 4 copies of the game and think Chucklefish deserves every penny they get, if itโ€™s half the game they claim it to be, regardless of this drama.

    • Darulio

      Mostly agree completely, but we have yet to see how many aesthetic choices there will be for these pets.

    • Cael

      You do realize these are not the only pets you can achieve in the game; there are much more complex pets that are NOT cute and have combat abilities…

  • Oxyz

    I have changed my mind, starter pets are awesome!!!

  • IXTAB

    i wonder what their next goal is gonna be.. or is this their last one?

    • Peter J. Ramaglia

      Does it really matter what the next stretch goal is? You’re going to get the full game to begin with…and anything else that possibly *could* be the next stretch goal is eventually going to be added to the game anyway, free of charge. Because of this reasoning, I’m still perplexed as to why there are so many users that feel they have the right to harshly complain about the current Starter Pets stretch goal. ๐Ÿ™

      • Jordan Teska

        It doesn’t, but I’d still be excited if there was another one, and there’s no reason not to wonder about it or be curious.

  • TillgrnPillgen

    5 people payed 2000 dollars for the game OMG

  • Exxion

    Huh. It’s still clearly going to reach a million, but it is taking a bit longer than I had expected…

  • tclww

    90k left

  • penguin lover

    PLEASE HAVE PENGUINS AS STARTER PET

  • FinnTheBird

    Aww yiss, finally got to preorder <3

  • ReviloO

    80,000 to go, want to know the next stretch goal! hope there is one :p

  • Greenix

    .Hi, oh no! I just started an argument!

    • greenix

      Because everything starts one on the internet ๐Ÿ™‚

      lol maybe not all…

      • Mr.Notyou

        I disagree, everything on the internet starts an argument. ๐Ÿ˜›

        • I disagree, Rabble rabble rabble

          • Mr.Notyou

            Well your opinion is less accurate than my opinion rabble rabble.

  • tclww

    80k left

  • monstermash

    wow moneys coming in fast i expect this game to be awesome

  • ZJThalen

    HEY LOOK
    PETS
    LOOK GUYS PETS

  • Odair Rossetto Jr

    I not bought the game yet… I’m waiting some video or something… Guys will release one?

    • Darkened Streets

      you tube search star bound. There is not a whole lot, but this game is worth $15. that includes beta AND the soundtrack, plus it helps benefit the game you just bought. Its better to buy it now while you can so you save $5 and get to play it months before its released.

  • Lord Decidus

    lets get rid of that 666…

  • Draxacon Chronos

    Awesome YEA ๐Ÿ˜€

  • tclww

    70k left

  • tclww

    66k left

  • Krud

    I personally think that pets will be rad! why wouldn’t they be? the companion system in torchlight brought a cool new element to dungeon crawling so why couldn’t it be a cool feature here. In fact, it makes little sense to complain about getting extra features in a game that you want.

    i haven’t seen too much negativity about this feature but when i hear about it i imagine it’s like this:

    “Stupid devs! messin up the game i want by loading it up with optional features that give me more variation to my play throughs!” -nonsensical person

    • Taiko

      I think it’s more that people are complaining because pets were already an option; it’s just that these are ones that are with you at the start of the game. I’ve already talked with someone over these pets just being vanity items, when they’re not.

    • Torchlight pets cannot be compared to Starbound pets. Pets in torchlight could “Attack, equip items, hold items, and sell un-needed items at town” Starbound starter pets “Look nice”

      • Taiko

        You’re right in that the two pets are different, but you’re wrong in how; there is no shop in Starbound you sent all the items you have that you don’t need anymore (well, not one huge shop anyways). In Torchlight, you could have replaced the pets with passive aggressive shopping carts and it wouldn’t have changed much. Starbound’s pets aren’t just to look pretty – later pets fight, and the earlier ones break us into their mechanics. They have a use aside from looking good. Wait until we see what that is.

        • I didnt say there wasn’t a shop in starbound. I said the pets cannot bring items to sell for you as they can in torchlight. Also these pets are non-combat pets. I didnt say that combat pets were useless only the ones for this stretch goal. Im saying this non-combat pet feature is useless. Better off putting programming resources on other tasks.

      • Ymedron na

        The starter pets act similarly to the companion-pet Nausicรคa’s main character had. Or a lot of other scifi/fantasy stories. A ton of series have an useless pet just to give their owner some flavor, why not have one here? You can have a huge stable of battle-pets later. It’s not like it’s hurting the game to have more content. 8l

  • EpicJoe

    Looks like they gonna make it to 1000000, thats great, keep it up!

  • tclww

    50k left

  • genjuroT

    Anyone else think the middle pet on the stretch goal on right hand side looks like a Burmy? Go back a page to see what i’m talking about.

    • Orinoco68

      Haha, yeah I thought the same

  • Hraaaaaarrrrrrgh

    This game isn’t just some combat simulator you know… Some people might want an updated tamagotchi type with more interactions.
    Play your way, but don’t impose that on others.

  • S L

    There had better be a corgi! >:|

  • tclww

    47k left

  • pokepoke09

    i dont think you guys should put in starter pets, pets should be obtainable later in the game. i think it gives a better sense of adventure, starting out alone and then meeting a little companion as you venture.

    • Namiwakiru

      There are PLENTY of other pets that will be available later I am sure, not to mention all the other more practical non-pet companions that will appear as you go. And no one said you will be forced to use a pet at the start, personally I like the idea of escaping planetary destruction with a little pal by side.

  • PECDA

    Nyaaa

  • HyperCreature

    are this all the pet’s? , i hope there is gonna be a panda.

    • Fitz

      There is probably going to be more than these, it’s just an example.

  • Caleb Anderson

    lost my PRE-ordor email i dont know how but i dont have it can you send it to me? [email protected]
    i need help getting it back

  • Macromute

    I purchased the $500 pre-order knowing every little bit of my money is being used in all Chucklefish’s power to make this game the best as possible.

  • ReviloO

    33k left and i want a small, cute armored icebear as starter pet

  • MeltingData

    Hope these will work like Torchlight pets.

  • Akavir Duskfeather

    I want a pet human. Bow before me inferior beings!

  • tclww

    28k LEFT

  • almost there guys~

  • Guys where almost there

  • tclww

    26k left

  • Reflex

    I can’t wait for this game omggg

    • Tkg654

      No…

  • Reflex

    w0000000000t

  • Ash

    Wait will i be able to get a pet Pokemon like Pikachu?

    If so i want t a Pikachu

    • Taiko

      If there isn’t, you can mod it in later on.

  • Lost Hunter

    One of the pets better be a fox or i’m going to be a sad panda…

    Also there should be a pet panda.

  • Taiko

    Really can’t wait to see what stretch goal we get after this one. Another race, or perhaps a variety of different fruit…I’m not sure what else could be added in by this point. ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Xaius

    stretch goals are incentives(as are the other payment options to donate) so Chucklefish can survive until release

    most indie developers have to live off of nothing until their first game comes out

    and if they run out of money they will have to find another source of income, and earning money elsewhere does not produce indie games

    this is merely them getting you to pay early so they can continue developing in peace

    and as a programmer myself – pets would be veeerrrryy easy to program as most of the code is already there
    they just have to modify it and make a button when you make your character

  • Magnivus

    well im just happy that the devs are so involved with the fans and this is just a little “thankyou for the support” gift. you rarly see stuff like this anymore and im glad to be a part of it. =D

  • Cheese Steak

    maybe for the next stretch goal they can give a release date of the beta or the full game. I would def put money into that.

    • Fishbowl

      Well, straight up misread that the first time. Thought you said “maybe for the next stretch goal, they can release the game,” and came up with this short little rant and a crack about the next stretch being a vote ban button for the forums (which I would totally buy another copy for, at this point,) but never mind. I might buy another copy or four if the release date was the next stretch incentive, though.

  • Exxion

    The money keeps slowing down. A million sounds completely possible and even probable, but waiting for it is beginning to feel like pulling teeth.

    • Taiko

      Actually, I’ve found it to have increased dramatically; at this rate it’ll be another week at most to see what becomes of this.

    • Taiko

      Hell, not even a week!

      • Exxion

        You’re right. It is kind of odd how the money came REALLY QUICKLY then slowed down then speed up again.

  • LFPO8k

    Pets seem awesome! almost there! 10k dollars left!

  • Bastille

    I hope they don’t actually talk…

  • Deimos

    For those of you who don’t quite realize, ‘counterparts’ implies these are going to function similarly to captured monsters, and ‘option’ implies these are an option that you can turn off.

    And you aren’t pre-ordering to buy the stretch goals, you are pre-ordering to buy the game, with the stretch goals being nice little bits added on. Not something people traditionally complain about…

  • Labal

    I really hope to see Doctor’s K9 somewhere on Glitch or Apex side.

  • i hope you guys are ready for this, because this is about to happen. it went up roughly 10,000 in a matter of less than 12 hours. Whos ready to enjoy some awesome early game pets? cause i know i am ๐Ÿ˜€

  • Luckywolfy

    I hope that by tomorrow the goal will have been reached ๐Ÿ˜€

  • toastygod

    So close to $1,000,000 :OOOO

  • Vulkax

    Getting closer!

  • ShadowDramon

    I’m going and when I’m back, that counter will be on 1.000.000$, or else

  • Zeraphon

    Ok, I don’t like these arguments, so when i say this, know that it is in a personal opinion, and not in any way going against, in a hostile manner, to other people’s opinions.

    I (personally) think that pets are a great idea, I mean, if you had to leave your home forever, the OPTION to take a pet with you= AMAZING! I mean, they may not be the most powerful pets, but I’d rather have the option to take a friend than being forced to watch as they get blown to smitherines(or whatever kills them).

    Now(still sticking to what I said at the beginning) I understand why people wish there was a ‘better’ final goal, but the previous ones are huge, I think that they are all brillient. (Note that I’m one of those people who loves the game for what it is)

    Now, the stretch goals are like encouragements to preorder the game, and I mean, even without the goals it would make sense to preorder it, as you get the game and the soundtrack, for less than what the game will cost, not to mention that this game is gonna get bigger and more expensive, it’s what happens, so better to get it now and enjoy it later.

    Once again, no hostility or arguments are intended against other people in this comment, it’s just a mere, personal opinion made by a guy who (sometimes) enjoys writing this stuff.
    Cya, and stay epic, or something, whatever.
    Zeraphon

    • Matt

      Why did you say bye and sign your name?

      • Zeraphon

        I actually have NO idea!

        • Percival T. Pig

          Wait, wait. There’s no more goals left?

          Yay! No more stress!

  • Zeraphon

    Now something that probably DOES go in argument to what people said:

    People are saying that 1 mill ‘deserves’ and ‘bigger’ ‘expansion’.
    They are going to add what is like a sub race, think about it! The pets will have their own customisation and such!
    They aren’t expansions or anything, they’re goals for if the game gets popular enough, to make it even better.
    1 mill, it’s 250k away from the last, which was 250k from the one before it, which was 500k away from the start, where quite possibly(and I mean possibly) less people preordered it!
    honestly, in a way, it’s the smallest ‘goal’ to achieve, but just as big a reward.
    Cya,
    Zeraphon

  • tclww

    5k left

  • tclww

    i will per-oder at 999990

  • tclww

    4300 dollar left

  • Only $4000 more!

  • tclww

    3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!! 3200 more!!!!!!!!!!

  • tclww

    3k more

  • tclww

    2600 more

  • Kaze Kami

    2567 more guys !!!!

  • tclww

    2300 more

  • Travis Prue

    Is that a calico cat sprite I see? ๐Ÿ˜€

  • tclww

    2000 more

  • Isaque

    Only 2000$$ MORE

  • tclww

    1800more

  • God damn it.

    STOP SAYING HOW MUCH MORE THERE IS.

    • Zedeck

      85 more!

      • DeanDactyl

        Nothing more! ๐Ÿ˜€

        • Percival T. Pig

          -2000 left and raising! Stop, we went over! WE WENT OVER!

  • Jebediah Oldenheimer

    We win!

  • WE DID IT YEYUHHH

  • Catrexinthehat

    WOOOOOOOOOOO IT MET

    • Nimja

      Woohoo!

  • wooot! 1millllllyun dollarss

  • Loads e money

    • Fishbowl

      Dosh, come and get it.

  • Phyrewall

    I may have bought a truckload of preorder keys to bust that million… whycantIholdallthesekeys.jpg Maybe I should just give them away!

    • Yis hello I approve of that idea yis indeed yiss.

      • Phyrewall

        Check the Starbound forums! I’ve made some lotteries!

    • I already bought mine, but I have a friend that won’t be able to buy the game, if you wanted to give some keys away, you could give him one ‘-‘

      • Phyrewall

        Check the Starbound forums! I’ve made some lotteries!!

    • Andy

      yespls that would be much appreciated

    • hmm. can i gets one for my bestie?

  • tclww

    YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

  • WE DID IT KIDS WE DID THE THING THE THING IS NOW A MILLION THING DID AM WE DID IS HAS ANYONE EVER BEEN FAR ENOUGH AS TO DECIDED TO GO EVEN WITH THE THING DID

    • Phyrewall

      WAT.

      • Percival T. Pig

        I am a guinea pig, and I approve this comment.

        …what?

  • tclww

    1 million dollar reached

  • Jaja

    What’s coming next lol ๐Ÿ™‚

  • M_Blox

    So then, what I am hoping for, with these pets, is:

    1 – To be able to care for them and leave them in your ship like you leave your pets in the house when you go for a walk in the park.
    2 – This has been said a lot, but they should be able to pick up loot and have a bit of storage space, for example, to have one slot for items that they hold in their mouth to carry to you, and maybe to put pouches on them to use as portable chests.
    3 – At least 5-10 different varieties of pets for each race. I don’t know, I just like the wide variety of options when picking this kind of stuff.
    4 – To not lock on to enemies that are on the screen and drag them to you, forcing you to fight. A bit simple, but quite helpful if you don’t attract the attention of level 100 enemies that will wipe you out in one hit.

    • Ymedron na

      Vanity pets -> they don’t fight.
      So there’s 4 out of the way. 2 potentially too because they aren’t supposed to do anything useful for you. (and you can send items to your spaceship anyway, so that means you can just clear storage space yourself without throwing stuff away.)

  • blukakka

    will there be more stretch goals?

    • skywirefan

      Any more stretch and it will rip in half like play dough.

  • Exxion

    WE’VE DONE IT
    THE FINAL (I believe) STRETCH GOAL
    HAS BEEN STRETCHED

  • Sruggs

    We got it! Good job fellow Pre-order..ers!

  • Why do you people insist on complaining about pets?
    1. They’re optional
    2. The will not hinder development
    3. They may provide something useful.

    And to the people saying this isn’t worth a 1mil goal. Um, it’s a gift, why do you care what it is? You’re not paying for it and it’s disrespectful to complain about something the company is giving you as an appreciation for pre-ordering. I understand some of you want something a bit better, but it’s a gift, just appreciate what they’re giving you. They’re doing this because they care that you guys are helping them out, complaining about this is just pathetic.
    /end rant

  • next goal! mounts xD

    • DeanDactyl

      OH YEAH! >:D

  • Brilliant addition! Looking forward to seeing this game indeed! =3 Had it on pre-order for awhile! Keep up the amazing work! =3

  • mega

    i want a poptop as a pet!

    • Exxion

      That was always going to be possible. Capturing and taming creatures has always been part of the game. This stretch goal was just to add vanity starter pets.

      • Yousef Geneidy

        Hence the poptop tamer rank at the forums.

  • Liam Smeester

    Is there going to be a fourth stretch goal?

  • YEA! finally arrived <3

  • Zymbobwye

    Just looking at all the post and about this whole thing almost is arguing about the pets slowing down the creation of the game but remember its the little things that make life awesome ๐Ÿ˜€

  • BarbieGirl

    THERE BETTER BE GUINEA PIGS

    • Percival T. Pig

      I am a guinea pig, and I approve this comment.

  • Superscope

    I want a room full of cats….. then i can Re-enact the crazy cat lady….

  • Rekombo

    Who can buy me this game? I really want it, but I have no money now. (rekombo.x @ gmail.com)

  • Reflex

    @Tkg654 what?

    • Exxion

      Do you not see the reply button?

  • OzBoySea

    All I’m seeing is CatBug in the bottom left.

  • whatareyouacop

    Daaaamn you boys dun made a lot of money (I was drunk when I wrote this)

  • MisterEtheFluffy

    I just hope they have the same functionality as the pets in Torchlight 2. i i could send my pixel cat to the store and pick me up some more bricks, that would be rad.

  • pickles da dawg

    i want catbug

  • CagedWalnut

    I want a pet walnut.

  • Crumpington

    I feel stupid, but I have to ask this. What is the next stretch goal? I don’t see it listed anywhere. I could assume that its 1,000,000, but I thought that goal had already been met.

  • Crumpington

    What’s really cool is as soon as this game comes out it’ll probobly make tons of money, which will allow them to make the game even more amazing.

  • volkaiNo’

    Add a new stretch goal for $1,250,000 as I’m about to buy the game but hesitating! ๐Ÿ˜‰

    • volkaiNo’

      space/asteroid/planet outer atmosphere biome? / drivable flying saucers – in space, too of course?

  • Benjamin Piassa

    Hey Guys Maybe a Good Idea is Clothing for the Pets!

  • Shawn Frady

    u should make it where you can give them items to send back to town so u can sell them

  • Jeremy Schwartz

    Suggestion: pets should work as helpers like they do in Torchlight. You should be able to “send them home” to do stuff like deposit items or craft or whatever when you’re “in the field”, and they’ll return after a reasonable delay. This allows you to continue exploring for every OTHER little amazing detail and simplifying the possibly more mundane aspects of the game. May or may not be relevant, I haven’t seen the gameplay yet.

  • Diovos

    YAAAAY UPDATE! Thanks for making the soundtrack available ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Krinon

    I’m a bit sad to hear that the release may not be this year, I’ve been really looking forward to it and due to the extra-long nature of this update I was half expecting the release to be the next update. None the less I’m excited that the game is so close to being finished!

  • Brion

    Thanks for the update! Polish is the most important thing you can do before release. I think I speak for many when I say people are SICK of early access/ unfinished games. Keep it up and please don’t be discouraged!

    Also, let us know the info on that closed beta ๐Ÿ˜‰

  • Klintt

    Hey CA, well first thanks for explaining us everything and dont worry: I understand.

    Ive been waiting this game checking everyday like crazy for around 1.5years and I can wait again. I understand. ๐Ÿ™‚

    As for beta: I think it would be nice if you made the beta available to everyone.. Im thinking about: If you preorder the game: you get beta access. Its just a suggestion ofc, but that would be nice if you did that.

    Also: Will our saves carry on, once the game is out? (I dont mind losing em anyways but i would love to know when you will do a beta)

    As for the supportive part:

    THANKS to YOU! You’re creating an amazing game and to me SV looks like my dream farming game! Thank you for not giving up on it. Im happy and proud to support you. I know that you’re putting all your heart,passion into this game its easy to see. I also really like that you tell us whats going on and explain it to us.

    So again: Thanks to YOU. ๐Ÿ™‚

  • FuzzyBubbles

    Been waiting a long time, so i don’t see a problem with waiting a little longer. The game is looking fantastic and i’m super excited to play it!

  • Marie-รŠve Nielly

    Buying the soundtrack as we speak and wishing you the best. You are doing the right thing by waiting for the game’s completion before releasing it and I for one understand production “delays” all too well. Best of luck!

    • Marie-รŠve Nielly

      The soundtrack is definitely worth the 5$. ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Grafton

    been checking religiously recently in hopes of a release date, upset it wont be this year but am glad it wont be much longer. I am happy to wait for it just beta and hope to be apart of it as well but don’t
    mind waiting for the final version.

  • Magzilla

    I will definitely buy that soundtrack with my next paycheck!! So glad to see an update!

    Also, I would love to be involved with the closed beta if and when you decide to do that!! ๐Ÿ˜€
    I don’t mind waiting a bit longer for this game. Like I’ve said before, once you’re happy with it, then we’ll all be happy with it. Keep up the great work!

  • Digus

    Take you time and do your thing. You showed a lot of times that you know what you are doing.

    Is it to much to ask for letting Chucklefish do another streaming? I’d like to see a little bit of the mines.

  • Dude

    DONT LISTEN TO EM!
    Keep that beta closed! We all want to try out the game, but it’s for the best if we all wait for the finished project.
    Maybe you could use some of the funds from the soundtrack to hire a play tester to help make your own job easier? ^_^

    Love the work that’s been done so far, and I’m happy to hear you’re still improving things as you go. Love seeing the dedication you have for this project, I expect it will be quite well made when all’s completed.

    I mentioned this at the bottom of the last update, but I’ll re-state a suggestion just for the sake of visibility at the risk of adding to your workload… and being rather annoying ^_^
    1. Tree+Plant motion.
    Watching the chucklefish stream, the world felt a bit still to me. I was wondering if some level of occasional breeze motion could be added to the plants and trees around the game world. Just to give everything some life even when plants aren’t being interacted with?
    2. Discernible Voices.
    Would it be possible to modify the dialogue tones a bit for each person in the town to give the illusion of voice? Not at all necessary, but a nice bit of polish in my opinion.
    I dont wanna add to your work load this close to the end, but I figured I’d mention these as an observer just to give you some level of feedback on the stream.

    Either way, I’m really looking forward to this game. I can see you’ve put a lot of heart and soul into everything. ^_^

  • K Zhang

    Omg yes take my money. I’ll definitely buy the soundtrack. I watched the chucklefish video, the game looks awesome and I’m looking forward to it and will be patient and buy it/play it whenever it comes out.

  • Martin Whit

    You should make the soundtrack available to purchase through steam page as well ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Ply447

    I really have no interest in the multiplayer at all, i just can’t wait to play the single player portion and relax while playing.

  • Geeky One

    I agree. I couldn’t care less about multiplayer. If single player is good, I just want to play as soon as possible. Your “beta” sounds like what I’ve been waiting for for years. Single player is why I play these types of games.

  • Dan Comstock

    I believe in you!

  • YUNO

    I understand you’re not ready for a full on release. Though I do think a beta would be so cool!

  • Hobolawyerman

    I am soooo hyped! Been following this forever!

  • vomov

    Thanks for the update! I feel you’re a reliable developer, especially when you’re making statements like that!
    Also, closed beta! YAY!

  • Oscar

    Got my sound track ๐Ÿ™‚
    Thanks again Ape for working so hard on this. As a game dev myself i understand its really hard to set release dates. Take you time and Polish this Jewel till she sparkles ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Frejman

    Shut up and take my money!
    But, no.. Really. You got $10 for that soundtrack from me! ๐Ÿ˜€

  • firekirby135

    Home stretch, here we come! I can’t wait!

    On the topic of the horse, though, there’s something I’ve been thinking about. I know it’s meant to be a primarily stress-free travel method, but in a farming game, I feel it would be a little disappointing if that was ALL it was. To some farm hands, a horse is as good a companion as a sheepdog is to a Shepard. So maybe, instead of forcing the player to care for it in order to use it, simply make caring for it an optional thing? Perhaps caring for the horse would allow you to bond more with the horse and in turn, allow the player to do more with the horse, like the ability to call it, have it follow, or even, if you give it saddle bags, have it carry things around for you so you can have more room in your pockets.
    These are just a couple ideas I’m rattling off the top of my head to make the horse feel a bit more alive. That said, I would be fine if the horse was just simply way of transportation. A little disappointed, I suppose, but fine all the same. After all, I’m positive the game is more than vibrant enough to compensate for a dulled-down feature or two.

  • Kinjax

    It’s great to see such a dedicated dev in the current sea of mediocrity ๐Ÿ™‚

    Imho it would be best to do the beta on a preorder basis. Valve right now lets games be put up for pre-order even 6 months or more in advance, if that’s a realistic time span for you to finish the game then it would be a great way to get testers, get our money and keep developing at your own pace.

    If you’re “afraid” of introducing it to the “general population” you can sell us pre-orders here, through the website, that come with beta access and keep the game hidden on steam until finished or closer to completion. There were plenty of other games that used steam for beta testing without ever putting the game in early access.

    • Zael

      I think CA’s specifically mentioned not wanting to go through the pre-order route (though I may just be confusing it with the Early Access specifically). With the flak that’s been taking lately, it’s proving to be a very good decision.

      • Kinjax

        I think it was about not going the Early Access route which is a good idea since most people hate it. When it comes to pre-orders, they’re are not the issue, the issue is cut content being given as pre-order incentive and then sold as day 1 DLC.

  • Maharaja

    why not release it as a early acces game on steam so people can play it while you still make the game i think a lot of people want to play the game so make single player semi done relase it and work on multieplayer with people playing singleplayer

    • jaykaylol

      Early Access has never been good for most indie developers. They’ll make some money upon release, but the game dies off quickly due to lack of content, and not a lot of people like to revisit games they’ve already played, especially when it’s an unfinished product.
      It’s been brought up a lot to Concernedape, and he’s talked about it, and said the same exact thing. He’s more likely to lose money than to make it if he doesn’t release a finish product. The idea of finishing Single Player, releasing it as beta, then finishing multiplayer later is the best solution.

  • Peter Schelvis

    YES RELEASE A BETA!! im not planning on playing multiplayer anyway, these kind of games i like to play solo ;D

  • Niklas

    Nice to see another update even though it’s not the release we’re all waiting for!
    Think we all agree with you in saying take your time to get it all right, we won’t go anywhere no matter how long it takes ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Jess

    Soundrack purchased !
    Beta or not beta… mmh good question… whatever, I trust Ape to make the best choice.

  • Meddyg

    I’ve come to this relatively late, which is probably good for me – less waiting for a release! This looks amazing. Just bought soundtrack and loving it. Very much looking forward to playing.

  • Ronald Halstead

    Im super excited for this game and despite the wait I figure Fallout 4 should tide me over until this one is out. ๐Ÿ˜‰

  • Space Blizzard

    From a business viewpoint, not releasing it at the end of the year also makes sense. There are a lot of really big games coming out (Fallout 4, Just Cause 3 etc) that will likely dominate people’s time. I personally would take Stardew Valley over any of them, but other people with less refined taste might not be so sensible ๐Ÿ˜‰

    Take as much time as you need. I’ve been eagerly waiting for this game ever since I learned of its existence, I can wait another few months.

  • Very nice. Thanks for the update!

  • Lrfoto

    Thank you for the update! We’ve followed you this long – we’ll continue following you as long as you need us to ๐Ÿ™‚ I’m really, really, really interested in the beta. Will that be something you offer to people who follow these updates? Is there a waiting list that can be joined? Thank you very much!

  • pinkcatmint

    Soundtrack purchased, plus a big tip! ๐Ÿ˜€ Keep up the good work, Ape. I was hoping to get this for Christmas, but if it’s not ready yet, I am willing to wait.

  • Sam

    You’re testing by yourself? I dont think that’s a good idea… developers should not test their own stuff so throughly. Other people use and play in ways you’d never think of. Additionally you could spend way more time bugfixing/developing, so you should consider getting people who tests the game for you.

  • Jess

    Haha ! I got you Ape ! :p

    Track 8 – Pelican Town (0″59) = Yoshi Island – World 1 (https://youtu.be/XMf3IM3sgTg?t=6m4s)

    Thanks for the soundtrack, I love it !

    • Marie-รŠve Nielly

      Haha I did notice that similarity too!

    • Zoe

      Track 53 Jaunty reminded me of Ocarina of Time as well. A lot of classic references.

  • pinkcatmint

    I don’t mind if there is a delay because it gives me more time to finish your present. I’m making you a Stardew Valley 4 seasons scarf! The Fall and Winter sections are done and I’m halfway through the Summer section, which is the hardest because I’m trying to knit crops and fences into the design. If I can get the darn thing finished, I will make a second one and you can maybe give it as a gift to someone who buys the game. I hope it’s ok to have the Stardew Valley logo on the scarf. Please don’t sue me ๐Ÿ™

    • pinkcatmint

      Dude, quit trolling the page and cussing. There are kids on this site. If you are tired of waiting for this game, then stop following this page. Bye, Felicia!

    • Sir Daws

      Sounds awesome! He should sell them as merch… ๐Ÿ˜€

      • pinkcatmint

        I don’t think I could make them fast enough. ๐Ÿ˜€

  • YellowKamml

    Great work! I can wait longer. In my opinion you should really keep the beta closed, so that everyone can taste from the finished project. It would be nice if you could bring the soundtrack also to Steam, because there is an option to pay with PaySafeCard. I haven’t any other methods to pay. ๐Ÿ˜‰

  • Halcyon Turtles

    CA – thanks for the update. Seeing it last night I was
    disappointed to read that the release is being pushed back, though I am grateful
    for the update and honesty, as well as the upcoming Beta.

    It sounds like you want to keep the Beta manageable, not wanting
    to employ an open Early Access route. Though from your posts over the years, I
    expect you also don’t want to make it so small as to alienate fans who’ve been
    waiting and watching for a long time. You could post details here with a mechanism
    on stardewvalley.net (e.g. like the humble widget sale for the soundtrack). Folks
    who’ve been following you can use it to pre-order and opt into the Beta.

    Consider putting up
    the details before the end of November, giving the community a “heads up”
    with a limited opportunity to pre–order and opt into the Beta through
    stardewvalley.net. If that’s limited to a brief period (e.g. 24 – 48 hours) it
    will keep the Beta manageable, while also giving the loyal community a change
    to get in. This will also help to combat some of the frustration that’s growing
    the lengthy development and final release delay.

    The fans here will be a great army of bug catchers, and if
    you are OK with allowing people to stream, then the Beta group will have the
    added benefit or getting the word out with ‘Let’s Play’ and other promotions as
    you address the last bugs and fine tune multiplayer. Some of your following
    have experience in media, so you’ll have a dedicated group of marketers happy
    to share their enthusiasm.

    Thanks for all your hard work! Here’s to hoping for some
    Beta details in the near future.

    PS Great tunes, listing to Fall (The Smell of Mushroom).

    • Krumplespell

      This is a very thoughtful post. It sums up my feelings and hopes.

      • Andrew

        Your failures and dreams also.

    • Joshua Chapa

      I love this idea.

    • McWhite

      And soon the beta was to be found as a torrent and a lot more people were playing it before release. Still sounding so good?

      • Joshua Chapa

        I suppose you make a good point. But that will always be a possibility right? The only way to completely avoid it would be to not have a closed beta at all. Of course, I’m sure there are much better ways to do it than offering it up as a one day download. Regardless, I’m looking forward to this game.

      • Kinjax

        What’s your point? It’s gonna end up on torrents either way. Look at Terraria, ended up on torrents early in the beta, still sold over 12 million copies, ~7 million on PC alone(and those are just steam numbers, the game also comes in DRM free format), you know, the platform on which every big AAA dev bitches about piracy. All that matters is if the game will be great or not, if it’s great people will buy it anyway.

        • McWhite

          But it will significantly influence the sells of the first week. And this game is not going to be a sandbox like Terraria, you will play it for a certain amount of time and then you are done with it, therefore the comparision lags a bit.

          • Kinjax

            While it’s true that this game won’t appeal to as wide an audience as Terraria did, there’s a flaw in your logic as well, if what you say is true then piracy should kill the sales of any singleplayer only story-based game, but it never does. Also if what Ape says is true, it takes roughly 50 hours to do a full playthrough of SW, that’s more than most people who buy sandbox games like Terraria actually invest in them.

            Even if you were right, that it does affect sales in the first week, most games end up on torrents the day they’re released on Steam anyway so having or not having a public beta changes nothing.

            I’m of the mindset that pirated copies do not equal lost sales. If your game is good enough piracy serves as a demo for most people who download a pirated copy and actually buy games. Someone who does not buy games in general won’t suddenly buy it just because he can’t pirate it and, someone who plays it and dislikes it would very likely refund it and possibly leave a negative review as well if he couldn’t “try it” before buying.

          • McWhite

            I’m not so sure about the “changes nothing” part, I think it strongly depends on the state the game is in when its going beta, but I strongly agree with your other points. Who knows, it may even increase the sales through higher exposure pre-launch. ๐Ÿ˜€
            I didn’t mean the audience when I was talking about sandbox, I ment the type of game it is. I think you are more likely to replay a sandbox game than a harvest-moon-ish more ore less story-driven game, thus increasing the chance to just pick it up when you see it on a sale, even if you already have played a pirated version

          • MC

            This post bothers me. People who are of the mindset that pirating media doesn’t equal lost sales, use this as justification to use and enjoy the media without paying for it. It’s like they feel if they can remove a “victim” from a crime, it’s justifiable to consume something of value without paying for it.

            It’s not absolute, but I believe there are considerable lost sales dollars from pirates. There are plenty of people who want to play a game, pirate it, get their fill, then never purchase it. There are also plenty of people who pirate the game early, then purchase it at a deep discount later on. Both situations the pirate gets more “value” then they paid for. There is value playing a game as soon as it’s available.

            I truly believe that in a fantasy scenario where pirating games/media was 100%, absolutely impossible, many (not all but many) of those pirates would end up purchasing the games they want to play.

          • Digus

            I agree that most people that pirate games gets more “value” then they paid for even when they buy the game later.
            But I completely disagree that most of these people would buy all the games they pirate if pirate was not possible.
            Most of the pirates are people who do not have a lot of money to spent on games. If they can’t pirate a game, they will play something else they can pirate. If they couldn’t pirate anything they would buy cheaper games or very few games compared to the amount they play pirating.
            The amount of money people have to spent on games is not a infinity source, and I believe very few of this source is not been spent because of piracy.

          • Ika Musume

            I don’t see how it’s any different if a pirate buys the game during a sales or someone else does.

            Also, your argument is based on assumptions on what pirates are and what they do. Ofc there are leechers that just dont want to pay for a game. But in my experience, many people (still a minority though, I’ll give you that) pirate the game for “political” reasons. If there is no demo available, if it has shady DRM, isnt available in their region because the dev didnt plan ahead to make a worldwide relase happen, etc. etc. If they like it, they buy it. Pirating serves as a demoing when the dev doesn’t put out a demo themselves.

            I used to pirate stuff all the time when I was younger. But I also own over 500 games on steam. Including Starbound and Terraria, and I can’t wait to play this one either. But I won’t buy a product going in blind. I don’t buy a car without checking it out first. So if there is no demo… I’ll make my own demo.

            Or at least that is how it used to be. With the new refund policy on steam, I can buy it, test it, and if I don’t like it I can refund it, so piracy on steam games is pointless unless you are a leecher. But it wasn’t always like that.

            And in the fantasy scenario you describe, many piractivists wouldnt buy the game because it uses this 100% DRM. So…

          • MC

            You’re entire argument is also based on assumptions of what pirates may or may not do. There aren’t any strong statistics what percentage of pirates purchase games they pirate or what percentage would never buy it regardless, etc.. But that’s besides the point.

            I still believe that a percentage (not all) of pirated copies equal lost dollars to the developer. Even if it’s a low percentage such as 3 or 5%, that’s millions of dollars lost. If you google most pirated games, you can find estimates exceeding 4 million pirated copies of AAA games.

            So what happens? GTA V is released on the PC over a year after release and Red Dead Redemption is never released on PC.

    • Uni Whitebear

      I’m not sure a closed beta would really help against alienation :p
      Let’s plays tend to just mean i’ll enjoy the final game less because i’ve already seen so much

      And if he already needs to change so much in his own playtest, then I don’t even want to think about how many years it would take with a group of playtesters – it will never be “fully perfect” after all

    • Bruce Hard

      Dev Update 32 is coming?

      Lets use the old SV forum, while ChuckleFish fixes the forum.
      http://stardewvalley.weebly.com/forum.html

  • Dawn McEwen

    I’ve been following this game for about a year now, and I have to say, I am soooo excited for this game. You can take your time, because this game is going to be worth it.

  • Ilham Rusyd

    Am I the only one that stressed so much of this news? Bad news for me. I think this will haunt my dream. Nightmares boys. Waiting is such a skill. One need so much skill to keep waiting.

    • ElectricPrism

      Pro Community Tip – when someone expresses disappointment everyone jump on said person with a variation of these remarks:
      o ) OMG Games are hard to make and dont happen over night, you need to be more appreciative and Patient
      o ) OP doesn’t owe you anything, you need to be more patient

      o ) How dare you insult OP GameDev! I challenge you to a duel, do you accept or are you a coward?

      Many are disappointed, OP clearly doesn’t know how to manage his time and chill his OCD a bit to finish the d4m thing, not everything needs to be 100% to open the doors – that’s the first rule to business, jeepers chrstlers!

  • Zoe
  • Zoe

    I have almost never spent money on a game, much less extras, but I am totally pitching in for this soundtrack!! So excited!

  • Amanda

    Ape, as a game designer/programmer, I totally understand your thoughts and concerns. I’m more then happy to wait for the final, finished product. I wish you all the luck and success. =)

    Looking forward to this game when its finally ready. ^_^

  • Lavarocks

    YESSS! Finally the full soundtrack!

  • Lavarocks

    But where is the Goblin Theme??? I don’t see it in the soundtrack…

  • Chihuly

    When we talk ‘closed beta’ are we talking a Beta we can say.. buy our way into? I’d be totally fine with paying full price for the game considering you’ll only have the beta going when the singleplayer is ready. Also if that is your method of testing the game for bugs I really think a closed beta is a great idea. Rather then 1 person looking through the entire game for bugs, you’ll have lots and lots of people running all over the game. Could possibly even implement something somewhere along the lines of “Encounter a bug? report it here!” hopefully you can manage the beta next month!

  • Snusbagaren

    Very nice that the finish line is visible, looking forward to this way to much ๐Ÿ™‚

  • I joined Disqus just so I could say: Awesome!

  • Vic

    Thank you for the update, absolutely gorgeous looking updates. I am a long time Harvest Moon fan and collector of all the games in the series, and seeing this shape up in the past couple of years has been a fantastic experience. Really looking forward to it, and take your time! Remember: “”A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad”.

  • Instantly bought the soundtrack. Keep up the amazing work dude. It’s been such an incredible year for gaming, but honestly, Stardew has been the top of my anticipation list ever since I heard of it (3 states and 2 girlfriends ago, lol!)

    I admire your perseverance and respect your commitment to finishing Stardew Valley the right way.

    • Zoe

      Haha I just realised, I’ve moved 7 times since I first heard about this game. Good grief. At least I’ve got my priorities straight lol. 3 states and 1 other country.

  • armedshark

    Let me add one more voice to the chorus of support–I’m glad to hear that you’re taking the time to get things right and polish the game to completion, even if it means a delay.

    There’s a sea of poor to mediocre early-access content out there, and it’s wonderful to see someone resist the temptation to release a half-finished early-access product and do things the right way. ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Daniel

    I wonder if you do realize how amazing your work are and the way you deal with your game and community ๐Ÿ™‚

    If you don’t, well… It’s amazing! Can’t wait to play Stardew Valley, I hope I can get into the beta <3

  • jaykaylol

    Aaah! I’m so excited. Definitely buying the soundtrack. Good luck! I know based on the little sneak peeks presented the past few years that I’m going to love the hell out of this game. I’m happy to hear that it might not be much longer, but don’t stress on pleasing your fans that are feeling impatiently excited. The disappointment of not getting a game when promised will be long gone once it’s released.

  • rapinii

    Don’t feel bad for pushing the release of the game! Your philosophy is incredibely refreshing in this era of never-finished-make-a-quick-buck early release games. The music sounds amazing! I’ve been looking forward to this game for years but when it comes out it’ll just be all the more worth it. Keep up the good work :3

  • ร„ssรค Salminen

    I just zizzlet little… Yes single player release is good till you get MP working. Take my money!

  • Pesawat Melintas

    We got your back ape! Don’t worry.

  • LaxoraNZ

    EEEEE, YAY! Closed Beta! I’m excited for this game, and it’s totally understandable that you’ve had to push back the release date, and also very much commendable that you’ve admitted to simply not being able to finish it in the originally planned time frame instead of just trying to hash something terribly buggy and unfinished out simply to attempt to please the masses. I’d say that this game is definitely going to be worth waiting for, and I’m perfectly fine with having the release date being pushed back another bunch of times if it means that we’ll get something that’s a lot more polished!

    I’m hoping I’ll be able to buy the OST this coming Wednesday when I get paid as I’ve been really REALLY wanting to support the development of this game for a long time, so it’s exciting that I’ll finally be able to!

    Keep up the good work, and hope to hear more from you soon! ๐Ÿ˜€

  • van_dell

    Man, I was pleasantly surprised by the soundtrack – I originally just wanted to throw some money at you but then decided to listen a little instead of saving the experience for the game. Nice work!
    Hope there’s a way into the closed beta for the mortals that have been F5ing your site for the last almost 3 years ๐Ÿ™‚ Really looking forward to it!

  • Courtney Mohland

    If there’s some way to get in on the closed beta, I’d absolutely be down for that. I love beta testing and I’m pretty good at finding typos, at the very least. So do give us details on a beta, as I know plenty of us would happily do so and give you tons of feedback.

  • Awesome news! keep up the amazing work ๐Ÿ™‚

  • turgsh01

    Would it be possible to make feeding and brushing the horse optional at least? Both me and my friend are big fans of horses (my friend is actually training and caring for a horse right now). Adding something like that would be quite appreciated if possible (and doesn’t take too long to do).

    Btw, really can’t wait to get my hands on this game… I have 3 other friends who are also waiting for it to come out. I get the feeling this game is going to be a really big seller.

  • Bailey

    Man… Bummer.
    Since all content is finished, would Chucklefish lend you any of their resources here in the polishing home stretch to help get this out earlier?
    Thanks for the update.

  • moniablox

    I understand you want to finish the game completely, take your time Ape! Closed Beta sounds like a great idea! Looking forward to the full release! ^_^

  • Christopher Veach

    Thank you for giving a way to support the game, I gave a tip when I first purchased, but wish I had given more after listening to the first few songs. If the game is as good as the music it’s going to be a complete knockout!

  • dawnbomb

    i highly recommend not doing a beta and releasing when its fully ready with multiplayer. as a player, as as other players, we collectively would would hear it out, buy and play it as a finished product, and most of us would not return for multiplayer or updates. nobody wants to replay an entire game for a couple extra things, even for a kinda big update, other then for say terraria, and thats more like a sandbox simulation.

    While i do want it out asap, i must say to wait for full release.

  • Bruce Wayne

    Ahh Ape, you THINK you can convince me to support you by offering the Soundtrack to Stardew Valley?! You’re Goddamn right! Bought it! Hope to hear more from you soon!

  • Dr. House

    Hey ape, bought the soundtrack to support your efforts. Hope we mac people aren’t left out in the cold. Cheers!

  • Zael

    Definitely agree, that the game’s full release should only happen with a working multiplayer. Otherwise, it’s not going to be seen as that different from Harvest Moons, and the biggest selling point is definitely that it’s a multiplayer game of that genre.

    May I add a suggestion for the horse: Make it optional to take daily care of the equestrian friend, and give out small bonuses for that.

  • Renee Van Bussel

    Way to go, I’m hyped about the open beta and I hope I get accepted when the time comes. ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Victoria Lynn Stanton

    Thank you for keeping us updated! I respect that you aren’t caving in under the pressures of all us greedy fans. This is the game I have been waiting for for years – another year isnt going to be too bad…However I will be one of the first to sign up for a closed beta.

  • Burnalot

    Thanks for the update, I think the advice you are getting are solid and from my simple view as customer I have to say I agree. It’s by far better to release something that’s finished and well polished then releasing something that’s not. After all, games are close to artwork in some cases, and the crtics are always hard to please.
    At least if you consider the time spent putting into making them.
    So, release it when you are happy to do so and make it awesome. That way you cannot fail.

    Anyway, Im sure most of us who comment here will endure the wait. Just make it big when it’s ready. ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Anthony Kay

    I love knowing this game is close to release, also im one of the veteran harvest moon players who have a following on youtube for videos.. would love to buy now and support you to continue at your leisure, i know myself and my fans would play this and enjoy it for many years to come. godspeed CA ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Jerry Campos

    Well I for one am truly and utterly disappointed and just not happy about the whole pushing back the date even when they said it would b released this year. Also the fact that their doing a closed beta which means most of us won’t see it. I seriously don’t understand why they don’t just release the singleplayer mode this year since from a last update said is almost complete. And yeah very disappointed… Very.

    • ConcernedApe

      I understand your disappointment, and I feel bad being the cause of it… Maybe I can explain my position better. I feel like I’m between a rock and a hard place. On the one hand, I want to make everyone happy and let people play the game as soon as possible. On the other, I have more experienced devs telling me that a single-player-only release is not a good idea from a business perspective. After working on this game for years and putting all my eggs in one basket (career-wise), I feel like I need to make the choice that will be best for my future as a game developer. I want Stardew to be a success. I want it to do well enough that I can focus on being a game developer full time and not have to work a minimum-wage part time job on the side. But I honestly don’t know the best way to go about achieving that. So far, I’ve just been trying to make a really great game, but unfortunately you have to take the business aspect into account as well. I really do want to get the game into your hands as soon as possible and I’m working my hardest to make that happen in a way that’s best for everyone.

      • Jerry Campos

        I understand that your main interest is in the moneys and since personally I’m not a game developer and don’t fully understand all the work and magical wizardry that goes into making a game I cannot say I fully agree with your decision of withholding the game till after it is fully completed. On a side note though when it is completed and released some time next year will it be on other platforms such as Mac or would we still have to wait longer for that too?

        • ConcernedApe

          My main interest isn’t money. It’s really not true. If it was, I would’ve done a kickstarter or a pre-order back when the game was first greenlit and buzzing with hype.

          I just want to keep making games that people love, to bring people that feeling of joy and magic that I felt playing games as a kid. The reality is that you need to make a living in order to have a career doing something like that, and you need your games to be successful if you want to reach as many people as possible.

          I’m not sure about the Mac thing. It depends on how easy it’ll be. I need to look into it more.

          • Klintt

            Devs like this are a rare sight (see why im proud to support you? If not reread your discuq comments! ;P ).

            Keep in mind that the sad truth is: You cant please everyone. Some will love SV, some wont and same for any future games that you will create…

            PS: And those feelings you already gave it to me a little from your updates, tiy stream (that was now deleted), and stream from update#30. (..and I havent played the game yet!)

            @Jerry Campos: Keep in mind that hes working on the game alone! (or most of it, unsure if chucklefish helps to test..)

          • Geeky One

            Hi there,

            I’ve been following you for years and have respected your commitment to the game. However, I must disagree about a lack of multiplayer on release harming ones game. For a different–perhaps more mainstream–type of game like (for example) Starbound. This is true. However, a game like Stardew Valley usually brings in more of a single-player crowd. And–unless I’m interpreting your previous posts incorrectly–the multiplayer isn’t really multiplayer. It’s more like visiting another’s farm (not multiple farms?, control is in the host’s hands) than four people playing the game concurrently and each following their own path.

            Overall it’s your decision to make, and I will be getting the game regardless. But I found this news extremely disappointing as it feels like holding back a great product just because one feature that could be patched in and doesn’t affect normal gameplay needs more work.

          • wy

            I have to agree with most of the other people here. Holding the release of a mostly single player game until multiplayer is finished isn’t really fair. Especially since you’ve been talking about a 2015 release all year long. I’d understand if single player wasn’t finished or up to your standards and decided to postpone the release, but multiplayer isn’t a necessity. Multiplayer is just single player with a friend. Sure it’d be cool, but it isn’t what people look for in this type of game to begin with. If you were to patch it in later, you’d just be making improvements to an already completed, lovingly crafted masterpiece.

      • Marie-รŠve Nielly

        My advice is to not let entitled people who know next to nothing about game development pressure you. I’m not saying that’s the case of the abose poster but I’ve seen my share of those.

      • Sam

        Well, I would be truly disappointed if you would handle it the other way around and release singleplayer before MP is ready. Beside that it would probably be a bad descision business side (who cares for a MP that comes 2/3 month late?), I would be in the position that I *really* want to play SV but I also *really* want to play it with my friend together – from the very start – so an early SP Release would be the bad news possible for me. Waiting to play it together while I get flooded with Infos and know everyone else is enjoying it already or abandoning the ideal to play it together and only have half fun?

        Well, the problem is that a lot of people waiting for Stardew and they all have different opinions and wishes. Do things like you think they are right, CApe. That’s your Game and your chance, so just stay calm and bring this to an good end. ๐Ÿ™‚ I’m pretty sure SV will be a huge success!

      • Xecense

        its all good man the music is amazing enough for me right now

      • Chihuly

        Honestly I feel a single player game by itself would be fine and many people would be happy. Ya’know what I thought when I first saw this game? I thought “Wow a Harvest Moon-like game.” Which is a single player series afterall. Not once did I think this game would be multiplayer and till I saw that part about it. So if we could get into playing just single player sooner, I’m sure a lot of people would be fine with waiting a month or two or more.. for multiplayer.

        Though on another note.. could we get some exact details on what the ‘closed beta’ will actually be…? Will it be, just a handful of keys/copies you give out? Will it be a pay for the game to get into the closed beta? Hopefully it’ll be the later option cause I’d totally be fine with buying it before multiplayer is out. If its the other option, I feel that would just be a select few or would it be first come first serve? I’m fine with either choice you make, I just feel the first come option would be.. a bit.. ‘eh’ one of those you HAVE to be on top of this website or your Twitter every day and even every hour in hopes to grab one in time.

        Hope we can just buy it, would be so much easier really.

      • Mur John-Paul

        Singleplayer-only releases don’t do very well and it will be a lot better for you to focus on a multiplayer release. That being said I think focusing multiplayer early release over single player finished state should be your focus because multiplayer games gets people to rush to an IP and stick with it longer.

        • Dan

          Well, we know this isn’t true. Just look at Fallout 4……single player only…..first 24hrs and sold $750 million. Games sell for two reasons….great gameplay or a solid following. Fallout 4 had both but SV has a good chance with it’s gameplay.

          • Mur John-Paul

            Good job bringing the few franchises that can pull off single player…if you think that Stardew Valley will be at any level of the same pull as Fallout 4 then you are kidding yourself.

          • Dan

            Lets not turn this into another pointless internet argument. You stated that single player games don’t do well. I pointed out one that does. Let me give you a list of some others that have done well:
            Banished
            Don’t Starve
            Dragon Age
            Skyrim
            Pillars of Eternity
            Rollercoaster Tycoon
            Sim City
            Tomb Raider
            The Witcher
            Borderlands

            Do I really need to go on?

  • briansalo

    As long as you feel like you’re releasing a solid product that you’re proud of, you should definitely take that extra time. You aren’t a major publisher looking to get games out on an annual cycle, you’re an indie dev making something homemade and special and the level of quality you bring to this will only be paid forward in people supporting future endeavors. Plus it’ll be less time spent fixing bugs and more time working on additional content right? ๐Ÿ˜‰

    I bought the soundtrack and am excited to give it a listen! If you need some beta testers you know where to find us ๐Ÿ˜€

  • Jesse Tucker

    As a software developer I totally understand how hard it can be to accurately estimate just how long some work can take. Take your time. We all want you to make the best game you can. It’ll take as long as it takes. Looking forward to grabbing the soundtrack!

  • Khalus

    So yeah, I’m still very interested in playing this game, but this delay to focus on making sure Multiplayer is available at launch is really testing my patience in caring about the game anymore. We’ve all been patiently awaiting this game for years, but please note that the majority of people I know as well myself, just don’t care about multiplayer! It doesn’t need to be in every game, or in the least available alongside single player at launch, please just patch it in later!

    • McWhite

      How is this testing your patience? Its not like someone just pushed back the release-date for the 20th time or something. We never even had a realese-date to begin with. Do you want to say that you will not play the game when it is a month or two later than “promised”?
      I hardly think so. ^^”

  • McWhite

    Guys, we’ve waited so long, one or two months more is nothing. And alle the people that whine in the comments now: You know exactly that you will play it even if it was released by the end of next year. Nobody ditches a game because it was released too late, you ditch it if it is a bad game. ๐Ÿ˜›
    That being said: @concernedape:disqus a lot of anticipation and hype is built for a release by the end of this year, a delay is fine as long as you don’t go completely dark on us. Even if there is not much in terms of progress, there surely is a lot of things in the game you could show that won’t take away too much from the experience. I mean its not like you are pushing back a release date for the 20th time or something, you only said something vague as “this year”. There is really nothing you should feel bad about.

  • Rodrigo Consoli

    It’s good to keep posted about a game we really want to play ;D
    When I see it available on Steam Store, will be an insta-buy of multiple copies!

  • HimochiIsAwesome

    I bought the soundtrack and it’s so beautiful. I can’t wait to hear these songs in game!

    Here’s to the final stretch of testing and bug fixing, hopefully! ๐Ÿ˜€

  • Joshua Chapa

    I’ve been lurking around here since 2013 and while I’m extremely excited to play this game I completely understand your desire to make sure you deliver a great product. Your communication with your fan base is excellent and I’m sure I speak on behalf of all of us when I say, we support you!

  • Royce Piels

    Making my first post just to say: keep up the good work CA, I’m so excited for this game and your respect for your own product gives me even more faith that this will be truly awesome.

  • Pablo Renan

    Thanks for the update. While others await fallout and other games, I wait for stardew, haha. I wait anxiously for the beta

  • HuntingBaker

    Well I’ve been watching this game for a couple years now, and I was ready to pay full price for alpha access to help the game develop. I have grown tired to hoping and waiting for something; seeing pictures and videos of a game is nice and all but nothing like putting ones own hands on it. I hope you do well with your game and people enjoy it. However, you have lost my, and my friends support. We will not be looking at any updates or purchase your title. Two years is too long to wait for something and from the looks of it we would be waiting another year or better. All the excitement for this game has been lost by me and I no longer look forward to it. Good luck.

  • Naru

    Hi CA, just wanted to say thank you for the update. I recently discovered Stardew about a week ago and am extremely excited about its release. I’ve been a huge fan of the Harvest Moon series so I’ve been searching high and low for a game that’s similar. I love the pixel art of your game in particular. We really appreciate all the hard work you put in and much rather wait for a finished final product.

    Also, can’t wait to play, review it on my blog and spread the word. Hoping to hear some more updates from you in the future!

    <3

  • medicinal herb

    ConcernedApe, thank you for the update. Every bone in my body yearns for this game. Please keep us in the loop as far as the closed beta goes, I’d love to try it out! Would pre-order immediately, purchasing the soundtrack now ๐Ÿ™‚

  • momo

    What I wanna know now with the beta being talked about.. who will know who will receive it?

  • Karock

    Hey Ape! Don’t worry about the release date, I can’t wait to play the game, but I’ll stick it out until multiplayer is up so I can play it with another friend equally excited to play it!

    Bought the soundtrack just to help you out until the game is ready to launch. I’ve listened to a lot of it before when you had previously had it up, and I was really impressed with your breadth of skills! I mean pixel art, programming, musical composition, and more!

    We’re all in the home stretch now, what’s a few more months anyways, especially if it means it’s done right.

  • Justin Case

    I speak only for myself when I say this, but… There are released games that don’t stand up to your unfinished product. I think you’ve pretty much exceeded the aspirations of the Harvest Moon series.

    Take the time you need. Because this game is worth the wait.

  • Jack

    Signed up just to say I picked up the OST! Take your time with development, but we’ll all be first to jump on the purchase! Can’t wait!!

  • MC

    Ape, I think you’ve gotten great advice from those other devs. Release the game when it’s ready.

    Also, it may actually be a good thing to avoid a late year release.

    With the flood of hyped AAA games on the market, I think it may be a good idea for Stardew to be delayed into January/February. It’ll give Ape a few more months to tweak the game and get multi-player working properly and the game may get a bit more attention once all the “game of the year” hype dies down and people start looking for a great game to fill the gap.

  • Sine_Amore

    Happy to see another update! Please do continue to hang in there, ConcernedApe! I know a few people have been discouraged, but most of us are still rooting for ya and we are 100% behind your decision to release this when you think it’s ready–so don’t let their discouragement discourage YOU! Much love from this long-waiting fan! I’m more than happy to keep waiting for this gem. n.n

  • Gustav

    Can’t wait to play this game!!!!

  • Sevidra

    <3 I'm disappointed that it's not coming sooner, BUT I would gladly go into a beta. If you're looking for beta resumes, please let us know? I'll gladly send one in.

    Beta is a privilege, and if it's possible to get in, I'd be honored.

    I don't know if a 'limited time' beta opt-in is the best, as you'll be guaranteed to get the fastest folks to respond – but definitely not the ones who are most likely to deliver bug reports, join in for multiplayer stress tests, or do weird stuff with their characters just to see if they can locate a random bug. Also, beta testers who've done it before and care about the process don't gripe about wipes, especially on the basis of bug-fixing.

    On the other hand, controlling access to a beta via questionnaire or resume is likely to take quite a bit of time, unless you have someone who's willing to sort through all those resumes and choose for you.

    Maybe the Chucklefish team would be willing to help with that? Just a thought. ๐Ÿ™‚

    -Sevi
    Still waiting with baited breath.

  • Nyanadventurer the second

    Can’t wait for this to come out… well…actully I’ve been waiting a few months already, so I guess I could wait…. But still, so HYPED

  • โœช Xy

    Thank you for updating us even further on the progress of the game! We have waited for quite awhile, waiting a little longer would be worth it, as we know that you are trying to improve the game as well! ๐Ÿ™‚ Thanks for the release of the soundtrack too!

  • Mur John-Paul

    I don’t understand why this is not in alpha yet…What I suggest is not doing single player and focus on MP and do a early release.

    • Marie-รŠve Nielly

      Worst advice ever…

      • Mur John-Paul

        Oh yeah…because it totally didn’t work for games like Minecraft, Factorio, Rimworld, Starbound, terraria, Edge of Space, Don’t Starve, Ark Survival Evolved, dwarf fortress, Rust…etc…etc…etc..

        This genre is made for MP, I know so many people that would love to play this game on MP but the problem is that they all lost interest in it because it has taken years from when they previewed it.

        • Marie-รŠve Nielly

          Didn’t mean to be rude, sorry. But not every game is the same and for every game early access worked for there are more that didn’t work out. Early access is a tired model. Besides he can’t ignore single player in favour of multiplayer, since mp is built upon sp. I’m sure your friends will still want to pick it up once it’s out and you won’t have to wory about bugs and missing features making your playtime less enjoyable. ๐Ÿ™‚

          • Mur John-Paul

            I don’t think you quite understand the gaming landscape… Early access is a fairly new model that has only been around since minecraft which was 2009 and has shown to be able to have huge payoffs for developers and give funds to assist in making the game bigger or finish faster.
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_access

            Minecraft: 71 million units ~$1,775,000,000
            Starbound 2 million units sold ~ $30,000,000
            Don’t Starve 3 million ~ $60,000,000
            Terraria 6.5 million ~$97,500,000

            and to give references of single player games that are similar
            Risk of rain 1 million units ~$10,000,000
            Penny Arcade’s On the Rain-Slick Precipice of Darkness 4 150,000 units ~$750,000
            Rogue Legacy 1,150,961 ~$15,000,000
            Antichamber 944,743 ~$20,000,000
            Brothers – A Tale of Two Sons 850k ~$13,500,000

            and the list goes on….More people play multiplayer games now a days and more people want to play early access games. The game is constantly changing, things feel fresh and people have a say in how the game gets changed and your friends are all playing together. Old releases like what triple A titles do, are the way of the past.

            He could totally ignore single player and make it so that day cycles work and the (caves?) place where you fight is working right. I think that would be a much better place to build the game around with building up your farm with a bunch of people than to play though a single player campaign.

            And bugs are going to happen no matter what and I really don’t care…I rather have a game with bugs than no game at all.

          • Marie-รŠve Nielly

            I do understand the gaming market and have had to study it as a game design student. The early access market is hurting public trust in developers. Of course you would cite the success stories, as there have been many, but even more so failed, with the players having already paid for a game that never gets finished.

            http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2014-11-13-early-access-popularity-growing-but-only-25-percent-have-released-as-a-full-game

            ” it is important to clarify that the release of an Early Access version of a title does not represent the release of a full, completed game. In fact, since the launch of the program, only 25% of the Early Access titles released have been released as full games.”

            I agree that a lot of players enjoy early access and that in some cases it can be a huge success, but the player does not always know best and there are a lot of mixed and negative reviews of users playing early access games and complaining about the game being unfinished, and a lot of those games never do get finished.

            Furthermore, as ConcernedApe said himself, he does not want the stress of having potential backlash and pressure over an unfinished product and he has been adviced to finish his game before release by several more experienced developers. Being so close to completion, it would make no sense to release an unfinished product now.

          • armedshark

            Though Marie has already eloquently explained why early-access is not necessarily a good choice, I would like to add that your “success stories” are not all they’re cracked up to be.

            Take Starbound, which you cite as a financial success. Sure, the developers made their money, but the game at “release” was a barely playable, half-finished mess. Only now, two years after “release”, is it approaching a playable state. The developers got my money, but their early-access game left a sour taste in my mouth; I’ll be much more wary to buy anything from them in the future, and I won’t touch anything early-access. Disasters like these are why a lot of people, not just me, see early-access as a blight on the gaming industry.

            Concerned Ape has made it clear that he wants to make the game he wants to make, not compromise his vision to try and maximize profits. This is commendable. He can focus on the single player game, and delay release until after both it and multiplayer are ready, as he plans to, and I am sure the game will still be quite profitable. People will still buy a good game when it is released, even if it spends a couple more months in development.

  • Digus

    For people wanting more frequent updates, ConcernedApe said he will try to make daily update on his twitter account, here is the first one: https://twitter.com/ConcernedApe/status/666889366195736576

  • LaDiablaBlanca

    We are super excited. Thanks for taking your time and making something worthwhile. ๐Ÿ™‚

  • LaDiablaBlanca

    Omg beta is so close *_*

  • Great to hear the progress you’ve been making! I managed to catch a bit of the Twitch stream that Chucklefish did when they played the game and was really impressed how far you’ve gone to make the systems enjoyable for the player. I think someone posted an idea on keeping the Closed Beta manageable for the loyal fans who’ve been keeping tabs and following the progress of this game. Hopefully the community will be able to get in and help with testing and ultimately making the game more enjoyable for the final release. Keep up the great work sir!

  • Ky Price

    Hello ConcernedApe,
    I’ve been following your game for longer than I can remember and I feel like this is an appropriate time to tell you how much I respect you as a developer. You’ve had so much pressure from many people to release the game early but you have never budged from releasing the game that you wanted people to play and I truly respect you for that. I think your plan for release is a great one.
    Have a great day and good luck with the rest of development. I cannot wait to see the finished product.

  • Dustin Brinnon

    Here I have Fallout 4 and Disgaea 5… Just Cause 3 is around the corner… and I still find myself more anxious for this!

  • Thomas29299292

    Im so done with this, really, i’ve been waiting this game for 3 Years now, I have 17 years, back there i had 14years, i really think that is very rude to take more time and make more falses predictions, i’ve lost all my illusion to this game, and all my hype, you’ve taked to much time, and now, at least 60% less people are interested on the game, you’ve ruined YOUR OWN game, doing so much fixes and stuff like that, i know you are only one developer, and i respect that, but you need to think about your fans, about your FIRSTS fans, Im not looking forward to this game anymore, and a lot of people feel the same, i hope you understand that your RUINED your own game and played with the time and even feelings of other people, im very disapointed about this dev, i tought he was diferent.

    You shouldnt release another game ever in your life, you are a terrible person,

    • sharlike

      If you don’t like it, you don’t have to buy it. But to say he’s a terrible person is completely wrong. It’s HIS game and he can do with it whatever he wants. He doesn’t have to release it until he thinks it’s time. I don’t think there are many people that feel the same as you.

      • Thomas29299292

        I was very mad when i wrote this and i admit that some things i said where wrong, but still, a lot of people feel like me, im tired of waiting and if he continues postposing the release of the game, he will keep losing fans and customers. Have a good day!

        • Karock

          Are you really 17? ๐Ÿ™

          • Thomas29299292

            Yeah.

          • ElectricPrism

            I’m 17″ too, how weird.

        • ElectricPrism

          The fanbois already gather like antibodies to try to thwart the voice of reason.

          You clearly are upset because OP made promises and now has broken his promises. Everyone’s appraisal of be quiet and STFU shows their lack of reasonableness.

          I return once in a while to see if OP has finally delivered, and now I get this disappointment XD!!!! OP clearly sucks at time management and estimating projections about project completion. Young and dumb.

      • ElectricPrism

        OP clearly made a promise and broke his promise, to defend him for breaking his word is nonsense.

        • sharlike

          Because games never get pushed back, right? It wasn’t a “promise”. If you have such a problem with it, move on with your life. You don’t have to go post a dozen comments about how mad you are. It’s not going to change when the game gets released.

          The level of entitled customers these days is just absurd

          • ElectricPrism

            As I just pointed out – OP said “before the end of this year” and clearly OP was unable to deliver good on his word.

            3 Years and not even a VIP Beta huh – you call that “entitled”, you are delusional and in need of a mental checkup for failing to comprehend basic reasoning.

    • jaykaylol

      Do you know how long it takes to develop a game with a team of people? Several years. With that in mind, you realize he’s doing all of this by himself, and three years of development is actually very speedy considering he probably has a day job, and a life. The fact you’re insulting him for postponing a game for a few months kind of makes you the terrible person… Your opinion is really not popular here.

      • ElectricPrism

        3 Employees * 1 Year = 3 Years Development Effort.
        Someone take a time-machine back and tell OP that he could have had this thing done 1.5 years ago XD.

        • jaykaylol

          Holy cow, you’re putting a lot of effort into commenting on everything you possibly can on this thread, aren’t you? Seriously, you have the most comments on this update.
          Why the heck are you so upset about something that has nothing to do with you? You didn’t give him money, you didn’t support him, you weren’t ripped off… You’re just whining because you’re bored, impatient, and probably narcissistic considering you reeeally like to see yourself talk apparently.
          Get a life. Get a partner. Play a video game. Channel that boiling batter of angry energy into something more productive like art, or game development (since you know so much about it.)

          • ElectricPrism

            That’s kind of you to notice my diligent search for individuals interested in conversing about more than the pretentious surface level BS you find on each of these blog posts.

            You seem to mistake my passion of being “upset”, you also make a lot of assumptions like that “I didn’t give him money”, and you call me “whining” – it wouldn’t be very nice to make assumptions through the almighty ether about you like you’re fat, adopted, and unlikable – that wouldn’t be very nice now would it?

            See what I did there – there’s no need to be rude when someone expresses passionate intellectual capacity – and if you think that every human should be autonomically physically and mentally alike I kindly suggest that you get out of whatever country or bubble you live in because this world is big and full of many kinds of peoples and cultures and minds.

            Also, mind your own business – it’s not in your jurisdiction to instruct me on what I do with my free time. Maybe you should go take a shower – see what I did there again.

            Moo. Boo jaykaylol Boo.

          • jaykaylol

            Ok.

    • Xecense

      I do understand you are upset.. so am I but worry not this game will come out and its going to be great and time travels quite fast so just don’t check everyday but like check every month who knows maybe it will be done sooner

    • McWhite

      You are not making any sense. How can you loose interest to something that isn’t even out yet? Nobody in their right mind will not buy this game because it took too long to get finished, once its out, you will play it, no matter when it is going to come out.

    • ElectricPrism

      1 – Publicly announce a expectation
      2 – Fail to deliver said expectation
      3 – ????
      4 – Get Booed Off the Internet

      OP seriously has issues at going any faster than a snail’s crawl of a pace.

      OP is ignorant and young and this game is his pet project and doesn’t take it seriously as a financial income & full-time job.

      Also OP is terrible at delegating and estimating ETAs based on a RoadMap and is likely terrible ADD and ADHD moving his attention to areas of the game that are unnecessary for release.

      OP does the right things at the wrong time in terms of work Prioritization.

  • eclipseofthemind

    I feel like this game is going to be special. Take your time, and make it the game you want it to be.

  • trucktub

    The soundtrack shall be purchased and listened to. And gifted to people. Boom. Xmas presents.

  • Martin Whit

    Hey if anyone is interested, i’ll be streaming this game as soon as it drops ! i’d really appreciate the support. twitch.tv/sarapbuhay Thank you ape for creating this game I’ve been following you for 3 years now lol cant wait !

    • marcus94x

      Nobody gonna watch… everyones gonna want to play Martin xD

      • Martin Whit

        I know right but you know, worth a shot ! lol

  • marcus94x

    **LIKE** & **COMMENT** If You Bought The Soundtrack to Support The Developer!

    • Martin Whit

      Of course ! haha

  • zachary tromans

    will we have the ability to learn new cooking recipes off the food channel?

  • Maharaja

    How can we get in the close beta xD

  • Alexandra Snow

    How do people know if they’re in the beta? Just need to be suscribers?

  • Rodrigo Deus

    I would like to volunteer to play the closed beta. I can also give an ideia of how much it would take to translate the game to brazilian portuguese and spanish.

  • Martin Whit

    Can we pay to get into closed beta? @concernedape:disqus

  • Erica Seal

    It’s December first! My Birthday…so where is that beta? :p In all serious I didn’t expect it today. (Just hoped) I have been looking forward to this possible release even more than my birthday. Thank you for making such a wonderful game! The anticipation it truly more exciting than frustrating. I look forward to checking stardewvalley.net and my email for even a smidgen of update. ๐Ÿ™‚

    • BellyUp82

      Happy Birthday Erica! If you’re not aware; Concerned Ape does daily updates (usually around midnight pacific time) on his twitter feed so be sure to check there for updates as well

      • Erica Seal

        Thank you for the birthday wishes and the twitter tip! I have a twitter that I check about once a year. Heh. That changes now. ๐Ÿ˜€

  • Davin Dirgantara

    december !, where’s the closed beta ?

    • ElectricPrism

      ZOMG OP didn’t deliver again? LOL, seems to be thematic these disappointments.

      • Davin Dirgantara

        uhh, what kind of software does it needed to make games like this ?

        • ElectricPrism

          http://www.Unity3D.com – Cross Deploy to 5 Platforms and perform a large portion of the work visually. In terms of raw power and FPS output it’s honestly overkill for a successor of HM.

          You could even prototype this game in literally 2 days in GameMaker by YoYo Games, I’m not saying it’d be nearly as complete in 48 hours, we’ve seen it done.

          Evoland 1.0 was crafted in a mere 48 hours during a gaming festival.

          • Davin Dirgantara

            wow, u sure this unity ? damn unity can do anything in games heh ? even 2d ? and you sir is… professional critics… good job, well im still waiting for this game cause in steam wild season is… uh… well you know it…

      • Marie-รŠve Nielly

        He never said December 1st or anything like that, besides, I don’t think entitled shits deserve to be in the beta, probably would whine about bugs too…

        • ElectricPrism

          Go chew on a brick Marie and jump off a bridge while you’re at it. Your understanding on this situation is clearly lacking.

          • Marie-รŠve Nielly

            Oh enlighten me on the situation, “ElectricPrism”, you clearly seem to know what you’re talking about seeing as you resort to flinging baseless, tired insults to everyone instead of arguing properly.

  • Georgina Raven

    You are my dream developer. You give us insights often enough not to worry, and we feel you care about us. Also not too often to feel lost in a mountain of unwanted information, and rare enough to feed our curiosity. Although I’d like to play your game veeeeeeeeery badly, I’m extremely happy that you take your time finishing, rebalancing, fixing, and finetuning it. Too many developers have money signs in their eyes or just let in to the immature, impatient fans, and just let us get disappointed eventually. And finally we just leave behind early access horrors, while 50 bloody fanboys are defending the game, which eventually results in a terrible, unfriendly playerbase. Keep going, and take your time, kudos to you, I wish every developer would act like you. I can’t wait to throw my money at your finished product. ๐Ÿ™‚ <3

    • Joeseph White

      Couldn’t have put it better

    • ElectricPrism

      So developers motivated to make $$$$ is bad, and you don’t see anything wrong with LYING and FAILING TO LIVE UP TO YOUR OWN WORD.

      Lets just polarize into 2 parties – defense and offense and throw all reasoning ability out the window – lets not admit that both suck and that OP is simply defective at doing all this hard work by himself.

      The time to be the 1-man-shop is over, it’s proven ineffective at achieving the goal, and it’s proven problematic, and disappointing to OP and the Community. The community would love to line OP’s pockets with enough cash that he doesn’t have to work a shit job and can be fulltime – but we can’t do that until we have something to buy now can we!

      OP needs to grow up and get professional about his job.

      • How about you get off your ass and make your own damn game. Otherwise, STFU.

        • ElectricPrism

          “How about you get off your ass and make your own damn game. Otherwise, STFU.”

          How about you lick my butthole buttlicker.

          • Redcoat

            ElectricPrism, your arguements are as strong as a 3rd graders. “how bout you lick my butthole buttlicker” you didn’t even mention anything about the game or VFM 360 comment. If your going to trash someone, at least make it plausible and relevant. On that, CA has a strong fanbase, and the amount of unhappy people (like yourself) compared to happy people is incredibly small. I’m very glad he’s taking this long to make the game by himself. Everything in the game then has a created purpose just as CA wants it. If it was many people, we would get a game with differing styles and purposes, and I believe that getting one sole style from CA (that yes, takes him longer), is much nicer then many styles.

          • ElectricPrism

            “If your going to trash someone, at least make it plausible and relevant.”

            Oh I absolutely agree that comments should serve some purpose be it informative, illuminatory or contrasting a topic of moot.

            My response purposly parallels VFM 360’s and exposes his intent to be rude for no other purpose than he disagrees with me.
            o ) “get off your ass”
            o ) “Shut the Fsck up”

            Those statements definitely don’t quality as “relevant” as you put it.

            I’ve been watching SDV for about 3 years now and it pains me to see such a promising creation fall victim to poor developer choices.

            My hope is that CA feels the urgency to at minimum begin Private Beta this month as that would validate his original promise to the community. Stagnation is a dream killer unless CA is a super introvert and has 0% interest in making $$$ off of his investment of time, resources, energy, etc…

          • Redcoat

            True, I will not argue that VFM 360 was not relevant and made a very weak response/answer to you. However, I was meaning to direct to previous comments for that, which I hadn’t so that is some what my own fault. It is quite possible that CA is not trying to make a living from producing a video game, and rather wants to see what people think and make fans happy. However, I do understand your point, and yes it is true that stagnation is a dream killer. But, seeing the fans and support he still has, and how it has only grown, I don’t believe stagnation will become a sever issue for CA. I’ve been with this game for about as long as you, only a bit later then you, at about 2.5 years. However, never once have I thought “if it doesn’t come out this year, I’m done.” The fact that we can see what he’s doing (to an extent) and can noticeably see improvements in the game has kept people from getting off the band wagon, and I think this long development has worked in his favour.

          • ElectricPrism

            I completely validate your perspective, you seem like a enjoyable contrast to read as I find opposing views and ideas helpful as the truth is often in the middle.

            I guess deep down inside I hope that CA reads all comments and a light turns on that impresses upon him a sense of urgency.

            I have about 4 -6 people ready to buy SDV if it’s good and we’re just worried that CA is a bit of a Perfectionist mixed with ADHD and quite even possibly a Introvert who works best solo. I know great things can come when a person doesn’t make $$$ their only aim, but I’ve noticed Starbound has pulled down 30 million dollars and Terraria 97 Million and I would love to see CA get at least 1-2 Million, but its hard to put cash in the pocket when the business doors are closed.

            Obviously I’m aware of the psychological response of “you can’t have this” which may account for some of the cult following that we witness in this thread, and while I’m all for hoping that CA puts his foot on the gas, I think Passion is important and that a mix of Passion & Income is the healthiest mix to bind CA to SDV franchise with time as both he and users benefit.

            Anyways, I’m still going to buy 2-10 copies of SDV for my LAN bros I just feel that even EA and VIP Beta introduce access to community feedback that is invaluable during the construction process – 3 years is a long time to go with only feedback from screenshots etc.

            And all the fancy content is really something that should have been done after the v1.0 release as It would make the community mad excited to keep playing for seasonal rewards and to do the newest latest town quests, etc…

            It’s like putting your carriage before your horse , It’s important in the industry to do the right thing at the right time.

            Anyways, that’s the continuation of my rant, I sincerely hope my wisdom leaks into his though process in order to get this airplane off the ground.

            And @concernedape:disqus – dont be afraid of “The Starbound Effect”, we all witnessed it where they were ridiculous, extremes are often bad like Bulimia vs Eating McDonalds every meal every day. Heeding what may appear to be “wisdom” about the “The Starbound Effect” taking peoples money for Early Access will only produce the opposite result and hold back SDV from organically growing a healthy gamer base.

            I would have been happy with planting crops and a seasonal system, a lot of the extra content really isn’t necessary for me to like SDV as its more about the mechanics and engine than about the quests and town imo.

            Thanks for the intellectual debate m8 @disqus_tBanWDwzmZ:disqus ๐Ÿ™‚

      • momo

        Maybe you weren’t here around when this first started, but he wanted to create this game HIMSELF, no team. He wanted to make a game for everyone to enjoy and he’s doing it by himself. Dev’s have outsides lives as well (Hobby and professional), they need to eat, sleep, and most have jobs already! He’s explained many times he wants to put out a game without bugs, and polishing so he doesn’t get stuck with the BAD business model of putting out a game with bugs and getting flack about it. If you’d take a moment to stop being a entilted piece of spoiled lump of flesh and take the time to read and know the basis on creating the game BY HIMSELF, you’d know he’s doing pretty well. The community has grown, even with the waiting of years for the game. I’m not speaking for the community, but I know sure as hell you wouldn’t represent any of us at all. Maybe you and what? 3 other people here maybe. Sad. Research, understand, know the dev, and grow up.

        End of rant.

        • ElectricPrism

          “Maybe you weren’t here around when this first started, but he wanted to create this game HIMSELF, no team”

          Assumptions, assumptions. GameDesign Solo? What a great idea!!!! Lets see that statement was issued in August 2012 nearly 3.25 years ago – seems like his plan has had great success!

          • CCWax

            Why do you act so entitled to this game? If you check out his twitter you will see that he is working on the game daily in addition to working an actual job since this game isn’t paying the bills… yet. Yeah we are all disappointed that the game isn’t coming out this year, but whining about it and accusing CA of lying isn’t helping anyone. He’s a first time game dev and doing everything he has done in the past 3.25 years is an incredible achievement for someone working alone. So yeah, maybe the development timeline CA had worked up was a little off. You’re being extremely selfish and small minded for believing that the way he should work should be the same way you would do things. Not a surprise though considering your psuedo intellectual attitude of sharing your “wisdom” for all. “A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool.” I also urge you to read the book “A Confederacy of Dunces” to see your similarities with the protagonist Ignatius J. Reilly.

      • momo

        While you’re at it, go make yourself this kinda game, get the funds to build a team, and tell me how long it takes to make a GOOD game.

        • ElectricPrism

          “While you’re at it, go make yourself this kinda game, get the funds to build a team, and tell me how long it takes to make a GOOD game.”

          LOL anyone could complete Stardew Valley faster than ConcernedApe – his ADHD is off the richter scale, I think part B and part C of your idea are fabulous!

          You should pass your suggestions on to ConcernedApe about “building a team” and “getting funds” as he has done 0% of both of those things and still doesn’t even work on it full time.

          This is not a pet fan-game project but a commercial product, boohoo you don’t like the price of milk? Go buy a cow yourself and milk it!!!!! Sound reasoning m8, I golf-crap your thought proceeses.

          • Otoma

            I would rather have a good game later than a bad/unfinished game now. There are other good games you can play while you wait for this awesome game :).

      • Karock

        Oh internet, where the spoiled 11 year-olds come to cry and the 20+ year-olds come to act like them.

        CA I am so glad you refused to go the early access or pre-order route. This slight delay has really brought out the worst people even when they have no monetary investment in the game. As much as I’d have loved to give you financial support while you work on the game, it obviously wouldn’t be worth it to take the money of people like this poster in advance.

        • Andrew

          spoiled? Everything is milked in this ass backwards system.

  • ElectricPrism

    DISAPPOINTED – BOOOOOOOOO

    • McWhite

      Why?

      • ElectricPrism

        3 years and no product – beta or early access.
        OP said we would have the game “by the end of 2015”.
        OP is a liar.

        • McWhite

          Dunno how you use language, but “by the end of 2015” sounds incredibly vague for me. He never said anything about a specific release-date, so I do not understand you and I don’t think it falls into the definition of lying.
          I think your anger could be put to way better use on companies like rockstar, who push a game back month after month for no apparent reason.

          • ElectricPrism

            When the Cable Guy says he’s coming between 1pm and 3pm and you get a call canceling at 4:45pm saying he can’t make it till next week …

            That’s called “going back on your word”.

            When mom says “I’ll take you to the game-stop to get X tomorrow” and then goes back on her word without eliciting negotiation that qualifies as “Lying”.

            A failure to fulfill one’s words & commitments. Foolishly making statements that are untrue or fail to meet expectations created by the fabricator. – “Liar”, verb form: “Lying”

          • Marie-รŠve Nielly

            ConcernedApe made statements that he believed to be true at the time, hence he was not deliberately lying. Furthermore, the examples you chose imply some inconvenience was caused to the other party… For example, if the cable guy said he was coming at that time, you would have made no plans for that period of time whereas you might have otherwise. But no inconvenience is caused by ConcernedApe releasing the game later except for some frustration for impatient, entitled people. I swear, people don’t realise game developers are people… Sure, he made a wrongful estimate of the time needed to release his game, as is often done by game developers because no one can accurately guess… but in the end, delaying the game instead of releasing an unfinished product is the right call. Get over it.

          • ElectricPrism

            I think you need to take a chill pill, I have nothing to “get over”

            I’m merely enjoying my delightful conversations with fellow meek & open intellectuals, and deflecting hostile unintelligible retorts while expressing my concerns in a atyptical manor designed to address these repeated setbacks.

            Obviously CA made statements in “good faith” and wasn’t “deliberately lying”. You make many statements co-morbid with assumptions as you no doubt are keen to think highly of your increasing knowledge in game development.

            Of all the people here I am quite certain and validate myself as understanding GameDevs, after all you’re talking to one who more than likely has adept understanding, why else would I bestow my wisdom upon the novice?

            Next time you swear make sure you understand all the facts before assuming, and next time you judge – make sure you are keenly aware that the ability to construct a game is not the only requirement to sit at the helm of a sole proprietorship, to lead a community, and to strategize socioecconomics while cultivating a organic gamer base.

            It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to create and stick to a roadmap and plan that leads to success. CA’s personality is not adequate to go solo on this as he clearly is capable of the construction but not helming a business.

          • Marie-รŠve Nielly

            I won’t address the personal insults and I retract mine, as this is not the place.

            However, I find many of your statements quite ironic and think your attitude has brought upon you many of those so-called “unintelligible retorts”. Additionnaly, some introspection your benefit you greatly before writing another comment.

            I also think you are quick to judge and make assumptions while also being quick to make some yourself.

            Having said that, I do take into account the value of some of your points, in spite of the way they were delivered. I just don’t agree with most.

          • ElectricPrism

            “Additionnaly” lol. I do appreciate that you used paragraphs to organize thoughts this time.

            Fear not I have nothing against you personally, if you wish now to go your own way I’ll see you on the other side of the great ether, alright.

            PS: Also I applaud how you wisely changed your Disqus account name to reflect a more generic version of your preferred identity. Sharing too much personal information on the internet is foolish and I’m glad you likely agree.

            I am merely a pupil of the great and mighty ether acquiring utility suchas gamedev, programming, etc… like yourself. Open yourself to the grande joy of the ether and transcend with. A very fond Adue.

          • Marie

            I won’t laugh at your spelling of “Adieu” if you don’t laugh at my spelling of “Additionally”. lol

            And yeah, regarding my name change, I do agree… I logged in via Facebook and was too lazy to change it.

            I’m sorry if I mistook you for one of those countless misinformed idiots that usually whine when a game is delayed. Moving on. ^^

          • Mathew Mateo

            believed true “at the time”? CA is just adding new stuff, he doesnt want to release the game, he overpased the perfectionism and became a guy with a working problem that dont know when to stop. he can keep adding stuff until 2019 and he would keep lying and making false statements

          • Marie

            Polishing is a crucial phase of game development, especially if you want to release a finished product like CA expressed he wants to do. I don’t think we are informed enough to decide whether or not the things he is adding or polishing are superfluous.

          • McWhite

            Both your examples were pretty specific and to the point, they were exact dates in some sort of manner.

            Ape never said an exact date and as I said, “by the end of 2015” is so vague you could easily argue that the very beginning of 2016 is still in the realm of what you could call “included in that time frame”.

            And instead of coming up with my own definition I’ll stick to the wikipedia definition of a Lie, okay?

            “A lie is a statement that is known or intended by its source to be misleading, inaccurate, or false.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lie
            And as far as I know, Ape didn’t know his statement was false (if it even was false), therefore it is not a lie. I don’t see him gaining anything from lying about the release date.

      • ElectricPrism

        Just for reference purposes in October 2015 (2 Months Ago) the following was said:
        “Yes it will be available this year.” – ConcernedApe

        https://disqus.com/home/discussion/starbound/dev_update_30/#comment-2269452411

        I request that @concernedape:disqus make good on his word at least by releasing a VIP Beta to a select few, I will gladly return to being a happy and good noodle. Communication please if you will.

  • Klintt
    • Davin Dirgantara

      MY GOD

  • Salvatore Clan

    Thank you for the update, CA! I agree that you shouldn’t rush your game until you’re comfortable.

    If you do release a closed beta, however, I sure hope I’ll be able to get in. Looking forward to playing your game, complete or not.

  • Nickolas

    Forums have 404’d?

  • As if I couldn’t get more excited, your latest twitter post has me even more hyped. Trying my best not to completely spaz out. Need *twitch* it soon *twitch* pretty please. *twitch*

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  • Demi Mondaca

    I check back here everyday for an update ^-^ This game looks amazing so far, I’ve been following it as long as I can remember.. My fiance usually isn’t into games like this but when I showed him even he thought this game was going to be 10000000% worth it! Keep up the great work, my fiance and I look forward to seeing more from you and the game ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Pesawat Melintas

    Choo choo~

    • Marie

      Hype train?

      • Pesawat Melintas

        Absolutely!

        • Marie

          All aboard!

  • Mathew Mateo

    Hey guys, i have a question, im planning on doing a Lets Play series of stardew valley, can i do the series and monetize the videos?

  • Mathew Mateo

    I would like to express my “feelings” to this game, im pretty upset, because i have waited this game for a long time now, around 1.5years, and the only progress i see in the last 4 months is that he added horses, really, why doing so many graphic overhaul an adding a lot of stuff that nobody will probably use? what im saying is that if you, CA,

    • James DeRiven

      An intellectual discussion would require something of substance, and maybe the disclosure of the fact that you already expressed an interest in monetizing Starwdew Let’s Play videos. At the very least you don’t seem to understand creative endeavour beyond an utterly inadequate lens of profit motive, so any ‘intellectual’ discussion you hope to begin is already stymied by a too-narrow Weltanschauung.

      • Mathew Mateo

        These days, creating a video game has the goal of making profit, and if you really dont want to make any money, then put the game F2P…

        What im saying is, that if CA doesnt give a damn about money, then why does he sells the OST for 5$ and will sell the game for more than 10$?

        • James DeRiven

          Because wanting to be compensated for years of hard work and starting a massive project for the sole purpose of monetary enrichment are not the same thing.

          • Koda Motoi

            Shhhh~ No more making sense now. It’s the time for having unrealistic expectations and questionable views on life now.

          • James DeRiven

            Ah. “Christmas.”

      • Mathew Mateo

        Also, good news, steam page is out: http://store.steampowered.com/app/413150

    • Boo hoo. You’ve waited 1.5 years for a game? You do realize that a majority of games created these days take several years to create with entire teams dedicated to their creation?

      We don’t care about your feelings you special little snowflake you. The sense of entitlement on this blog is rediculous. A guy can create his game when he wants to, how he wants to. He doesn’t need your input, especially when it does not provide anything useful. Stop whining, it will be finished when the creator wants it finished. Not before, not when you “feel” like it should be done, but when he decides it is ready.

      So until then, I suggest you all go instagratify yourselves on McDonalds or whatever else you desire and chill the heck out.

      • Mathew Mateo

        Dude, eat a snickers, calm down, im not the only one that thinks that CA is ruining the game by postposing the release so much, so im not a “special little snowflake”

        Also, i understand the point that he can release the game when he wants, but that’s not the most adecuate thing to do, i’ll say it again, he will lose fans and hype every time he postpose the release

        • Digus

          He might lose sales and hype by postpone the release, but he also might win sales and hype is the released game is better because of the extra time he had postponing it.

          • Mathew Mateo

            In that i agree with you, but still, what upsets me is that he said that the game would be released on 2015 and now, poof! we need to wait to 2016, i know that the game needs to be finished and stuff.. but why he says 2015 if hes going to postpone the release and do a false statement?

          • Digus

            He said 2015 because he truly believed he would be able to.
            He said 2015 more than 6 months ago, at that time it seams really possible to him to release the game in 2015. But things change, unexpected things happen.
            He is been really clear about his schedule now. He was doing daily updates on twitter. He is doing much more than he needed to.
            Bigger, better and more experienced game developer companies postpone games all the time because of the same reasons.
            There is no reason to believe there is some kind of conspiracy behind him saying that the game would be released in 2015 and now postponing it to 2016. This things happen a lot and no one should be happy about them, but there is no reason to be upset either.

        • AFKmuch

          Maybe you should stick to your electrical engineering, and not act like such an expert on video game development when you clearly know nothing about it.

          • Koda Motoi

            But backseat game developing from people who understand next to nothing at all is so much fun. Where else are they going to toss out their feelings of entitlement?

      • Mathew Mateo

        Also my friend, steam page is out: http://store.steampowered.com/app/413150

    • Pesawat Melintas

      Be patient.

      • Mathew Mateo

        Good for you!

      • Otoma

        This made me laugh so hard

  • Van Dracorrek

    Guys Search Stardew Valley on the Steam Shop ;D

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  • SimiIV

    Choo Choo! All aboard the hype train!

  • Andrew

    Make the dog shut up or not bark as much, fucker is annoying. Maybe could buy a leash and bring it to the train tracks and go from there, ๐Ÿ˜‰ -_-